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  • can anyone help with a print, laminate & cut problem?

    Posted by Frank Horner on 2 October 2007 at 09:49

    Sorry if this has been covered already but I could not find an answer.
    I used to have no problem doing this with my cadet.
    I upgraded to a Grenadier SP1400 which came with Troop 6.1. Print and cut is no problem, but once I include registration marks, wether I remove to laminate or just try to cut from registration marks I get a "sheet too small" error on the printer display.
    I know this is balderdash as a 300mm print on a 760mm roll still gives "sheet too small" message.
    The printer has no problem with the alignment of the registration marks.
    I have no idea if there is an issue with the machine, the software or with me.
    Hope someone can point me in the right direction

    Frank

    Pryam Carter replied 18 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    2 October 2007 at 17:06

    you found a answer yet frank

    chris

  • Frank Horner

    Member
    2 October 2007 at 17:48

    thanks for asking Chris, but no luck as yet.
    when the error message comes up it does ask if I want to continue, telling it yes it proceeded to cut in the wrong place, but I did not think at the time to check if it cut the right size, the other attempts it looked like it was preparing to cut and then just stopped as if it had finished.
    I reckoned asking here was more likely to get results than chasing B & P and not such hard work.

    Frank

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    2 October 2007 at 17:59

    silly question you are telling it to cut the correct file ?

    quote :

    telling it yes it proceeded to cut in the wrong place

    you haven’t got any offsets in there.

    i would go right back to the beginning and generate a new file, with just a 1 inch square filled with black and a cut path, and follow it through every stage.

    chris

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    2 October 2007 at 18:35

    Frank is the sheet size correct in the cutting profile?

    Peter

  • Frank Horner

    Member
    2 October 2007 at 19:44

    thanks guys, I will double check everything again tomorrow, and post after trying again.
    As I said before, didn’t have this problem with the cadet.

    Frank

  • Frank Horner

    Member
    3 October 2007 at 20:28

    I have cleared all queues, picked a new file, set it up and printed it.
    Gone to cut, "sheet too small" so I checked the cut set up, wrong size(what a muppet), Peter you were right on that bit. Of course the rip then asks if I want to adjust layout as the sheet size has changed, so I hit OK (muppet) cut in the wrong place.
    Start again, print OK, cut, again it asks if I want to adjust layout, no way pedro. It ignored me and moved it anyway, at least it appeared to on screen and when I cut it was wrong again.
    I measured the image as cut against the original file and find that the height is correct but the width is approx 3mm less than original but the spacing appears to be correct.
    I am now a little more enlightened and a little more confused.

    Frank

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    3 October 2007 at 21:09

    Frank when my machine was installed the engineer set up four profiles on the rip, the first was print and cut straight away. The second was print and then cut later (after laminating). The third was print only and the fourth was cut only. When using the second setting you tell it to print registration marks but turn of the cutting in the settings, then after printing and laminating you will find the cutting profile in that fourth setting. Just tell it to register with the marks. I know this all sounds complicated, but if your rip was set up correctly then it should all make sense.

    Peter

  • Mike Robson

    Member
    5 October 2007 at 11:55

    When I RIP a file (or layout) with a Cutpath using the ‘Print Only’ profile I have, the print file goes into the queue for unit 1 (Grenadier), and the corresponding cut file goes into the ‘Cut’ tab queue. I then process it from here and it appears in the queue for unit 2 (Grenadier Cut Only) and cut it from here. That’s using Troop 6.1. Is that the way you’re doing it?

    I have had the sheet too small error before too, but I can’t remember why.

    Are you leaving enough vinyl after the print for the printer to feed the sheet fully? I think the manual says 75mm.

  • Pryam Carter

    Member
    5 October 2007 at 18:00

    I had problems with my Roland 540 when i bought it, i had to have them out to it, they replaced the motherboard and all is now well. Is it still under warranty? Get them out if so.

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