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  • can anyone help me with problem and pcut630 please?

    Posted by Sam Millin on 27 December 2006 at 12:58

    Hi,

    Ive just got hold of a Creation Pcut630 and Im using Flexisign 7.6v2. The cutter has been installed on com3, and worked a couple of times when I first tried Flexisign, but now I’m having problems.

    When I goto cut/plot, it loads up a before but when I click send, I see the file show in the production manager, and it runs from 0 – 100% but nothing actually happens with the cutter.

    Ive also tried winpcsign with the same problem.

    Has anyone had this problem and know of a way to remedy it?

    If anyone is on msn and could help, please add me : (mod-edit)

    thanks in advance.

    cheers

    Sam

    John Davis IOM replied 18 years, 8 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
  • 15 Replies
  • Russ Draper

    Member
    27 December 2006 at 15:39

    I have this problem with my pcut630 as well, one thing i have found is that i set the cutter to work off the com2 port and attach it to the usb port on my computer and assign the com2 to that port!

    Now if i ever plug anything other than the cutter to that usb port it causes a conflict somewhere and I get the problem You are describing, and I have to end up deleting all the old drivers and reinstalling the lot…so I never plug anything into that port other than the cutter!

    Hope it helps a little!

    P.s. just also check that the baud rate on the cutter display is set to 9600 as sometimes they re set to 19200 and this is to fast!

  • Glen Mathers

    Member
    27 December 2006 at 17:34

    I’d say the same as Russ, check the baud rate on your p-cut, mine did exactly the same and the baud rate changed on it’s own, i changed it back to 9600 and all works perfect now.

    Glen

  • Sam Millin

    Member
    27 December 2006 at 18:12

    hi,

    yeh it was the baud rate, all that time and it was that easy, damn these cutters! ๐Ÿ™‚

    cheers

    Sam

  • Glen Mathers

    Member
    27 December 2006 at 19:24

    Damn these cutters ๐Ÿ˜€ but they do a great job for little money ๐Ÿ˜€

    Glen

  • Sam Millin

    Member
    27 December 2006 at 20:42
    quote Glen Mathers:

    Damn these cutters ๐Ÿ˜€ but they do a great job for little money ๐Ÿ˜€

    Glen

    yo,

    thats true.

    cheers

    Sam

  • Mike13401

    Member
    24 January 2007 at 22:52

    Hi has anyone figured out how to set the Pcut 630 to 9600 as default as every time I switch mine on it has gone back to 19200. Thanks.Mike

  • Russ Draper

    Member
    25 January 2007 at 00:56

    I reckon that P-cuts come with little gremlins included….

    gremlin one: causes p-cut not to respond and cut from software, but just on occasions

    Gremlin two: causes p-cut baud rate to flip from 9600 to 19200 whenever it feels like it (mines not done it for a while though)

    gremlin three: causes the pressure setting to always revert back to 255 whenever it is turn on (my biggest annoyance)

    gremlin four: has trouble remembering where the start and the finish of the letter is when cutting no matter how you set the blade offset (only by a fraction but enough to make weeding a pain)

    Im sure there are more, but not sure if it is all the p-cuts fault or just my lack of knowledge of p-cut setup!

  • Jerry Bonham

    Member
    25 January 2007 at 03:03

    Hello Russ,

    You complain about gremlins in your PCut

    There are two manufacturers in China of PCuts. They are brothers who argued and split the business into two companies. They have never spoken to each other again. I am good friends with one of the brothers and have done a lot of work with PCuts and know their ins and outs pretty well.
    So here goes and see if I can shed some light on some of your gremlins.

    gremlin one: causes p-cut not to respond and cut from software, but just on occasions

    Aha, you do not say what model you have. Is it new, old or USB and serial or USB only or serial only?
    I have seen this in USB connections. I have not seen this on serial only. Solution if it is USB. Change USB port and make sure that you are using the main USB port of your computer. If it is serial make sure that the settings in device manger are the same as in your software. If USB make sure the same setting apply as well in both software and Device Manager. (USB is a type of serial — USB does stand for Universal Serial Port) Most Chinese cutters are USB 1.

    Gremlin two: causes p-cut baud rate to flip from 9600 to 19200 whenever it feels like it (mines not done it for a while though)

    The same answer as above applies. The setting on the USB or Serial port MUST in Device Manager match to the settings in your software.

    gremlin three: causes the pressure setting to always revert back to 255 whenever it is turn on (my biggest annoyance)

    Not a gremlin. Simply there is no function or memory to retain settings in your particular PCut. These cutters are produced for a very low price and sold for very low prices. Do not expect all the bells and whistles of a cutter that is three to six times the price. Compromises must be made in producing anything low cost. The PCut guys have done a remarkable job to produce a reliable cutter that does a great job.
    (About who makes & designs PCuts — Sam Sun, my friend was the first person in China to design a vinyl cutter from scratch. He was a sign maker so poor that he decided to make his own. He did not even have a Roland cutter or access to another cutter to copy it. So from absolutely from scratch he made the first PCut. He is a genius — could you as a poverty stricken sign maker that needed a cutter desperately make one from scratch with parts bought from a local electrical supplier? Sam did and it worked and he then went on to make them for other sign makers in China. And of course as soon as the first one was sold it was copied by others everywhere. So today in China there are 47 manufacturers of cutters, nearly all based on Samโ€™s design)

    gremlin four: has trouble remembering where the start and the finish of the letter is when cutting no matter how you set the blade offset (only by a fraction but enough to make weeding a pain)

    I think you may have a real complaint here. It does not do this when I use a PCut and as there are about 2,000 or more month made and sold to the west I would heard screams about this long ago.
    The blade offset should be 0.3 not 0.25 for a normal red tipped blade. The blades in PCuts are the same as in Mimaki cutters and Omega Cutters. Did you know there are four different blades available for different uses. They have the following offsets. 0.15 for very small letters, 0.3 for normal work, 0.5 for reflective and 0.75 for the real heavy duty 3M reflective stuff. The 0.75 is what the scrapbook industry also uses for cutting light card.

    So do not alter your offset values. You do not say what software drives your PCut. As far as I know only SignBlazer and ArtCut can drive all PCuts. In SignBlazer the software does an over-cut. In other words it cuts (always) past the start point to stop this happening. I am not sure in ArtCut. I doubt it. We invented this over-cut way back in 1992. I have never mentioned this before and it is not in any of our advertising about SignBlazer. So without testing ArtCut I could not tell you if it does an over cut or not. I am sure that other western sign cutting software programs have added this however I am not sure. Some of the early western brands of cutters has this problem and this was our solution.

    Another cause is a resharpened blade or a blade with a broken or damaged point. So try a new blade as well.
    Good Luck! If you need more info just post a reply.

  • Russ Draper

    Member
    25 January 2007 at 07:50

    Hey Jerry what a great post.

    Firstly let me say that my post was tongue in cheek and in no way was I slating my P-Cut, I bought this cutter from a UK supplier with signblazer software and it has enabled me to go in a different direction in my business!

    It is a a USB only version, with english instructions!

    Like you say you get what you pay for and for the money this is a great cutter!

    Thanks

    Russ

  • thornfire

    Member
    30 January 2007 at 21:29

    Hi Jerry nice informative post just what I was looking for ๐Ÿ™‚
    I bought a Creation cutter from this company in Sydney had nothing but crap from him deposited cash $1495.00 into his account to get the cutter in two to three days didn’t arrive for three weeks after a lot of agro, the stand didn’t even suit the cutter different colour, I had to use my panal beating skills to adapt it. As I have a market for vinyl cutters I searched the web and purchased another from Creation ? SHENZHEN Jerry do you have a email address for the Creation company you know as I think I have done my dough with the Creation Company I am dealing with I have called them twice and asked for the manager but I think I keep getting an office girl she would not tell me her name I deposited money on the tenth January still no tracking number I would not deal with this company again just received an email from a girl called Rachel saying she lost my email address but she also had my MSN address so this is a warning to anyone attempting to import their own Creation cutter MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH. the web address’s are different one is http://www.pcut.cn.com the other is http://www.pcut.com.cn. The cutter itself is a good cutter compared to the three Redsail cutters. I imported from China very good company to deal with http://www.hflaser.com but in my opinion their vinyl cutters are not as good as the creation for the same money.
    thornfire

    quote Jerry Bonham:

    Hello Russ,

    You complain about gremlins in your PCut

    There are two manufacturers in China of PCuts. They are brothers who argued and split the business into two companies. They have never spoken to each other again. I am good friends with one of the brothers and have done a lot of work with PCuts and know their ins and outs pretty well.
    So here goes and see if I can shed some light on some of your gremlins.

    gremlin one: causes p-cut not to respond and cut from software, but just on occasions

    Aha, you do not say what model you have. Is it new, old or USB and serial or USB only or serial only?
    I have seen this in USB connections. I have not seen this on serial only. Solution if it is USB. Change USB port and make sure that you are using the main USB port of your computer. If it is serial make sure that the settings in device manger are the same as in your software. If USB make sure the same setting apply as well in both software and Device Manager. (USB is a type of serial — USB does stand for Universal Serial Port) Most Chinese cutters are USB 1.

    Gremlin two: causes p-cut baud rate to flip from 9600 to 19200 whenever it feels like it (mines not done it for a while though)

    The same answer as above applies. The setting on the USB or Serial port MUST in Device Manager match to the settings in your software.

    gremlin three: causes the pressure setting to always revert back to 255 whenever it is turn on (my biggest annoyance)

    Not a gremlin. Simply there is no function or memory to retain settings in your particular PCut. These cutters are produced for a very low price and sold for very low prices. Do not expect all the bells and whistles of a cutter that is three to six times the price. Compromises must be made in producing anything low cost. The PCut guys have done a remarkable job to produce a reliable cutter that does a great job.
    (About who makes & designs PCuts — Sam Sun, my friend was the first person in China to design a vinyl cutter from scratch. He was a sign maker so poor that he decided to make his own. He did not even have a Roland cutter or access to another cutter to copy it. So from absolutely from scratch he made the first PCut. He is a genius — could you as a poverty stricken sign maker that needed a cutter desperately make one from scratch with parts bought from a local electrical supplier? Sam did and it worked and he then went on to make them for other sign makers in China. And of course as soon as the first one was sold it was copied by others everywhere. So today in China there are 47 manufacturers of cutters, nearly all based on Samโ€™s design)

    gremlin four: has trouble remembering where the start and the finish of the letter is when cutting no matter how you set the blade offset (only by a fraction but enough to make weeding a pain)

    I think you may have a real complaint here. It does not do this when I use a PCut and as there are about 2,000 or more month made and sold to the west I would heard screams about this long ago.
    The blade offset should be 0.3 not 0.25 for a normal red tipped blade. The blades in PCuts are the same as in Mimaki cutters and Omega Cutters. Did you know there are four different blades available for different uses. They have the following offsets. 0.15 for very small letters, 0.3 for normal work, 0.5 for reflective and 0.75 for the real heavy duty 3M reflective stuff. The 0.75 is what the scrapbook industry also uses for cutting light card.

    So do not alter your offset values. You do not say what software drives your PCut. As far as I know only SignBlazer and ArtCut can drive all PCuts. In SignBlazer the software does an over-cut. In other words it cuts (always) past the start point to stop this happening. I am not sure in ArtCut. I doubt it. We invented this over-cut way back in 1992. I have never mentioned this before and it is not in any of our advertising about SignBlazer. So without testing ArtCut I could not tell you if it does an over cut or not. I am sure that other western sign cutting software programs have added this however I am not sure. Some of the early western brands of cutters has this problem and this was our solution.

    Another cause is a resharpened blade or a blade with a broken or damaged point. So try a new blade as well.
    Good Luck! If you need more info just post a reply.

  • Russ Draper

    Member
    1 February 2007 at 00:05

    Does anyone know where I can purchase a 15degree blade for small letters, as I try to do a lot of intricate work and small lettering?

    Thanks

  • thornfire

    Member
    1 February 2007 at 03:34

    A BIG thank you to Jerry Bonham of Signblazer fame and also Jerrys Friend in the UK for helping me sort out my problem iwth purchasing a cutter direct from China Now that I have met Jerry I will purchase my cutters from him and sleep at night ๐Ÿ™‚
    Thornfire PS I am going to try out your SIGNBLAZER software as well Jerry
    Thank you once again

    quote thornfire:

    Hi Jerry nice informative post just what I was looking for ๐Ÿ™‚
    I bought a Creation cutter from this company in Sydney had nothing but crap from him deposited cash $1495.00 into his account to get the cutter in two to three days didn’t arrive for three weeks after a lot of agro, the stand didn’t even suit the cutter different colour, I had to use my panal beating skills to adapt it. As I have a market for vinyl cutters I searched the web and purchased another from Creation ? SHENZHEN Jerry do you have a email address for the Creation company you know as I think I have done my dough with the Creation Company I am dealing with I have called them twice and asked for the manager but I think I keep getting an office girl she would not tell me her name I deposited money on the tenth January still no tracking number I would not deal with this company again just received an email from a girl called Rachel saying she lost my email address but she also had my MSN address so this is a warning to anyone attempting to import their own Creation cutter MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH. the web address’s are different one is http://www.pcut.cn.com the other is http://www.pcut.com.cn. The cutter itself is a good cutter compared to the three Redsail cutters. I imported from China very good company to deal with http://www.hflaser.com but in my opinion their vinyl cutters are not as good as the creation for the same money.
    thornfire

    quote Jerry Bonham:

    Hello Russ,

    You complain about gremlins in your PCut

    There are two manufacturers in China of PCuts. They are brothers who argued and split the business into two companies. They have never spoken to each other again. I am good friends with one of the brothers and have done a lot of work with PCuts and know their ins and outs pretty well.
    So here goes and see if I can shed some light on some of your gremlins.

    gremlin one: causes p-cut not to respond and cut from software, but just on occasions

    Aha, you do not say what model you have. Is it new, old or USB and serial or USB only or serial only?
    I have seen this in USB connections. I have not seen this on serial only. Solution if it is USB. Change USB port and make sure that you are using the main USB port of your computer. If it is serial make sure that the settings in device manger are the same as in your software. If USB make sure the same setting apply as well in both software and Device Manager. (USB is a type of serial — USB does stand for Universal Serial Port) Most Chinese cutters are USB 1.

    Gremlin two: causes p-cut baud rate to flip from 9600 to 19200 whenever it feels like it (mines not done it for a while though)

    The same answer as above applies. The setting on the USB or Serial port MUST in Device Manager match to the settings in your software.

    gremlin three: causes the pressure setting to always revert back to 255 whenever it is turn on (my biggest annoyance)

    Not a gremlin. Simply there is no function or memory to retain settings in your particular PCut. These cutters are produced for a very low price and sold for very low prices. Do not expect all the bells and whistles of a cutter that is three to six times the price. Compromises must be made in producing anything low cost. The PCut guys have done a remarkable job to produce a reliable cutter that does a great job.
    (About who makes & designs PCuts — Sam Sun, my friend was the first person in China to design a vinyl cutter from scratch. He was a sign maker so poor that he decided to make his own. He did not even have a Roland cutter or access to another cutter to copy it. So from absolutely from scratch he made the first PCut. He is a genius — could you as a poverty stricken sign maker that needed a cutter desperately make one from scratch with parts bought from a local electrical supplier? Sam did and it worked and he then went on to make them for other sign makers in China. And of course as soon as the first one was sold it was copied by others everywhere. So today in China there are 47 manufacturers of cutters, nearly all based on Samโ€™s design)

    gremlin four: has trouble remembering where the start and the finish of the letter is when cutting no matter how you set the blade offset (only by a fraction but enough to make weeding a pain)

    I think you may have a real complaint here. It does not do this when I use a PCut and as there are about 2,000 or more month made and sold to the west I would heard screams about this long ago.
    The blade offset should be 0.3 not 0.25 for a normal red tipped blade. The blades in PCuts are the same as in Mimaki cutters and Omega Cutters. Did you know there are four different blades available for different uses. They have the following offsets. 0.15 for very small letters, 0.3 for normal work, 0.5 for reflective and 0.75 for the real heavy duty 3M reflective stuff. The 0.75 is what the scrapbook industry also uses for cutting light card.

    So do not alter your offset values. You do not say what software drives your PCut. As far as I know only SignBlazer and ArtCut can drive all PCuts. In SignBlazer the software does an over-cut. In other words it cuts (always) past the start point to stop this happening. I am not sure in ArtCut. I doubt it. We invented this over-cut way back in 1992. I have never mentioned this before and it is not in any of our advertising about SignBlazer. So without testing ArtCut I could not tell you if it does an over cut or not. I am sure that other western sign cutting software programs have added this however I am not sure. Some of the early western brands of cutters has this problem and this was our solution.

    Another cause is a resharpened blade or a blade with a broken or damaged point. So try a new blade as well.
    Good Luck! If you need more info just post a reply.

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž :lol1: :lol1:

  • Paul Leicester

    Member
    1 February 2007 at 13:46

    I spoke to Creation yesterday and your cutter is on its way – Rachel has had a stern talking to.

    Cheers Paul

    quote thornfire:

    A BIG thank you to Jerry Bonham of Signblazer fame and also Jerrys Friend in the UK for helping me sort out my problem iwth purchasing a cutter direct from China Now that I have met Jerry I will purchase my cutters from him and sleep at night ๐Ÿ™‚
    Thornfire PS I am going to try out your SIGNBLAZER software as well Jerry
    Thank you once again

    quote thornfire:

    Hi Jerry nice informative post just what I was looking for ๐Ÿ™‚
    I bought a Creation cutter from this company in Sydney had nothing but crap from him deposited cash $1495.00 into his account to get the cutter in two to three days didn’t arrive for three weeks after a lot of agro, the stand didn’t even suit the cutter different colour, I had to use my panal beating skills to adapt it. As I have a market for vinyl cutters I searched the web and purchased another from Creation ? SHENZHEN Jerry do you have a email address for the Creation company you know as I think I have done my dough with the Creation Company I am dealing with I have called them twice and asked for the manager but I think I keep getting an office girl she would not tell me her name I deposited money on the tenth January still no tracking number I would not deal with this company again just received an email from a girl called Rachel saying she lost my email address but she also had my MSN address so this is a warning to anyone attempting to import their own Creation cutter MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH. the web address’s are different one is http://www.pcut.cn.com the other is http://www.pcut.com.cn. The cutter itself is a good cutter compared to the three Redsail cutters. I imported from China very good company to deal with http://www.hflaser.com but in my opinion their vinyl cutters are not as good as the creation for the same money.
    thornfire

    quote Jerry Bonham:

    Hello Russ,

    You complain about gremlins in your PCut

    There are two manufacturers in China of PCuts. They are brothers who argued and split the business into two companies. They have never spoken to each other again. I am good friends with one of the brothers and have done a lot of work with PCuts and know their ins and outs pretty well.
    So here goes and see if I can shed some light on some of your gremlins.

    gremlin one: causes p-cut not to respond and cut from software, but just on occasions

    Aha, you do not say what model you have. Is it new, old or USB and serial or USB only or serial only?
    I have seen this in USB connections. I have not seen this on serial only. Solution if it is USB. Change USB port and make sure that you are using the main USB port of your computer. If it is serial make sure that the settings in device manger are the same as in your software. If USB make sure the same setting apply as well in both software and Device Manager. (USB is a type of serial — USB does stand for Universal Serial Port) Most Chinese cutters are USB 1.

    Gremlin two: causes p-cut baud rate to flip from 9600 to 19200 whenever it feels like it (mines not done it for a while though)

    The same answer as above applies. The setting on the USB or Serial port MUST in Device Manager match to the settings in your software.

    gremlin three: causes the pressure setting to always revert back to 255 whenever it is turn on (my biggest annoyance)

    Not a gremlin. Simply there is no function or memory to retain settings in your particular PCut. These cutters are produced for a very low price and sold for very low prices. Do not expect all the bells and whistles of a cutter that is three to six times the price. Compromises must be made in producing anything low cost. The PCut guys have done a remarkable job to produce a reliable cutter that does a great job.
    (About who makes & designs PCuts — Sam Sun, my friend was the first person in China to design a vinyl cutter from scratch. He was a sign maker so poor that he decided to make his own. He did not even have a Roland cutter or access to another cutter to copy it. So from absolutely from scratch he made the first PCut. He is a genius — could you as a poverty stricken sign maker that needed a cutter desperately make one from scratch with parts bought from a local electrical supplier? Sam did and it worked and he then went on to make them for other sign makers in China. And of course as soon as the first one was sold it was copied by others everywhere. So today in China there are 47 manufacturers of cutters, nearly all based on Samโ€™s design)

    gremlin four: has trouble remembering where the start and the finish of the letter is when cutting no matter how you set the blade offset (only by a fraction but enough to make weeding a pain)

    I think you may have a real complaint here. It does not do this when I use a PCut and as there are about 2,000 or more month made and sold to the west I would heard screams about this long ago.
    The blade offset should be 0.3 not 0.25 for a normal red tipped blade. The blades in PCuts are the same as in Mimaki cutters and Omega Cutters. Did you know there are four different blades available for different uses. They have the following offsets. 0.15 for very small letters, 0.3 for normal work, 0.5 for reflective and 0.75 for the real heavy duty 3M reflective stuff. The 0.75 is what the scrapbook industry also uses for cutting light card.

    So do not alter your offset values. You do not say what software drives your PCut. As far as I know only SignBlazer and ArtCut can drive all PCuts. In SignBlazer the software does an over-cut. In other words it cuts (always) past the start point to stop this happening. I am not sure in ArtCut. I doubt it. We invented this over-cut way back in 1992. I have never mentioned this before and it is not in any of our advertising about SignBlazer. So without testing ArtCut I could not tell you if it does an over cut or not. I am sure that other western sign cutting software programs have added this however I am not sure. Some of the early western brands of cutters has this problem and this was our solution.

    Another cause is a resharpened blade or a blade with a broken or damaged point. So try a new blade as well.
    Good Luck! If you need more info just post a reply.

    ๐Ÿ˜Ž :lol1: :lol1:

  • thornfire

    Member
    2 February 2007 at 15:03

    Thanks Paul
    I will put it down to experience lucky I found this forum and you two guys
    I will sell the cutter on Ebay and buy a Omega 60 from Jerry.
    Thanks again Thornfire

  • John Davis IOM

    Member
    7 February 2007 at 21:25

    I have a similar problem to Russ.
    I also have a Pcut 630. No problem with the cutter but I do have an occasional problem with Windows XP coming in to conflict with the drivers. The annoying thing is it some times operates for days then you switch on the PC and before its booted up it re-starts itself. I know itโ€™s a driver related problem (windows will tell me that much) and have determined that itโ€™s the USB com port driver that is causing this problem. Iโ€™m just not sure how to remedy the fault. As I say it doesnโ€™t do it every time.. Any ideasโ€ฆ.??

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