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  • can anyone advise with laminating foamex?

    Posted by Richard Wills on 24 October 2012 at 17:11

    does any one know where I can get 3050 (or larger) black 5mm Forex – we have a dozen 900 x1500 prints to mount to PVC for a photographic exhibition.
    We’ve had sheets cut down from 3050×2050. of Non Forex PVC, but this is not sufficiently consistent in thickness, to run through the laminator – the PVC varies from 4.6 – 5.5mm in thickness, along the short side. Have tried Amari, but they don’t stock much 5mm black.
    Any suggestions, or tricks for laminating to non flat PVC – we’re getting waves / bubbles 2/3rds the way in to the material. We know the rollers are good, as we have no problems running dibond / Kapa or the PVC (when run through the machine against the length). Unfortunately the Jetmounter is only 44", so can’t run the 900×1500 on the long side…

    David Rowland replied 12 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Peter Munday

    Member
    24 October 2012 at 21:05

    Richard, three words. Too much pressure! if you put to much pressure on the rollers the laminate will stretch and pucker giving you air bubbles. Just release the pressure and all will be fine.

    Peter

  • Richard Wills

    Member
    24 October 2012 at 21:18

    We’ve backed off on the pressure (jet mounter has L&R wheels – roller down, then up a quarter – half turn, so rollers are just resting on the substrate). Setting works great on kappa mount, and on the f-lux when going "down the long edge", but not along the length of the material.
    Will try a couple of things in the morning:
    Back off the pressure – will try that first while the protective film is still in place – the adhesive is way cheaper than the board.
    Run a section of the material cut down to fit, sideways, to see If plan c will work.
    Order new cut bits, cut from the long side (so three pieces rather than four from a 5×10′) and run a promo on smaller prints!
    I mouth that I had tried the light touch – will try lighter.

    Thanks.

    Ps, what is the technical term for going from the short edge / from the long side…?

  • David Rowland

    Member
    25 October 2012 at 20:17

    black.. no

    but i will say this, we order forex print in for printing on our UV, we enter sheet thickness and if the material doesn’t keep flat then the image will blur as it is printed. I have to say I never noticed fluctuations in thickness

  • Richard Wills

    Member
    26 October 2012 at 13:06
    quote Dave Rowland:

    I have to say I never noticed fluctuations in thickness

    With the Forex, I’d agree -a remarkably consistent product. Unfortunately Amari don’t seem to be able to sell enough of the Non print version, to make it worth carrying. So far, all the alternatives I’ve tried have up to ± 10% from the 5mm (and some of them do both plus .5 and – .5mm, which is enough to leave us gubbered. I’d imagine this is not so much of an issue for vinyl users, where the material can conform to the substrate?

  • David Rowland

    Member
    26 October 2012 at 14:15

    ok we buy ours from Amari or Antatlis McNorton. my amari stockist will order from other branches if they need to.

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