artists prints

[Mike Grant]

If you can scan it you can print it!!!!

[Nicola McIntosh]

cheers mike….i have just asked ed the same thing, and scanning came to mind.. 🙄 so i would need the biggy scanners (cant remember the names of them) 😕 brain going too fast and not thinking it’s a friday night thing 😉

update on a stupid question…ed is laughing his head off :rofl: his friend is an artist and has the required machinery 😮 … time for me too hide again :peek:

nik

[southernandy]

Geeclee machines are what you need for artists prints.

My mate works for a picture framer who also has a couple of art galleries- they get their originals printed in Manchester on specialist fine art printers- the cost is stupidly cheap.

Apparently artists are very funny about the quality of re-prints made from their originals and 99% of them use Geeclee based suppliers.

If you try on a solvent machine I would expect loads of hassle- these printers are not designed to get the results you need.

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote southernandy:

If you try on a solvent machine I would expect loads of hassle- these printers are not designed to get the results you need.

thanks andy…just the answer i needed to hear 😀 the guy ed knows has an epson 9600 😀

nik

[Andrew Boyle]

http://www.alastairhouston.com/prints.htm

Nik

my pal Ali is obsesssed by the quality of his prints and produces them himself……..

[southernandy]

Sorry Nik- we must have been typing away at the same time- wasn’t trying to teach you to suck eggs or nowt.

On a side track to this arty stuff my mate at the framing factory banged a hole through a 13 grand original a few weeks back- pooing himself he rushed it to the restorer guy who believe it or not whacked on a few coats of bog standard superglue and tinkered around a bit- it’s a flippin amazing result cos I was shown exactly where the hole was and I still couldn’t see any signs of it.

Apparently a lot of the artists he deals with are a fiesty bunch and he’s still a bit rattled- I can’t get out of him wether or not they told the lady who bought the canvas in for framing that their is a dirty great repair sight in the centre 😀 not sure the head honcho was told either. That would be an interesting conversation to be in on 😀

13 grand for a painting- blimeeey- we are all obviously in the wrong trade 🙂

[Nicola McIntosh]

your friend has a nice style…love the strathearn 😀 i learn a new thing everyday as to how these editions are printed.. 😉

ed worked alongside his friend alan http://www.glenlyongallery.com/ here is his webby…im not too keen on his stuff a bit flat..but he is quite talented 😀

nik

[David Rowland]

we do a lot of artistic prints on Canvas on the JV3, works a treat

[Andrew Boyle]

dave

the Oce canvas for JV3 is best i think?

thanks for help couple of Fri ago

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote southernandy:

Sorry Nik- we must have been typing away at the same time- wasn’t trying to teach you to suck eggs or nowt.

no worries andy friday nights are always like this for me…chill-out time and make an absolute twit of myself… 😉

nik

[Andrew Boyle]

Nik,

great paintings…..don’t think he need the animals in them half the time!
they seem to be more detailed and spoil the flow!

[Phill Fenton]

Nik

I believe the Cadet produces more “bleed” than the Versacamm simply because the ink is more agressive than the ecosol ink. If you look very carefully on a Versacam print you should be able to see it is slightly sharper than something printed on the Cadet.

However, I’ve had samples of Versacamm and Cadet prints and have never really noticed any difference. However I’m seeing it from a signmakers point of view and not from a highly detailed artists perspective.

I recently printed some very small labels (previously done on a Colorcamm) on the cadet and can honestly say that the detail was clearer when the labels were produced on the Colorcamm.

If you are thinking of buying a Cadet for its print durability I think you have to accept that there is a slight trade off in definition according to the type of ink used.

Having said that – if printing on canvas I doubt you would be able to see any difference simply because the canvas weave would be the deciding factor on clarity rather than the ink used.

[Andrew Boyle]

Aaah friday night…… now I’m a bloody art critic….. my mother always said I was a self opinionated prat

Goodnight 😀

[Nicola McIntosh]

yep totally agree..they just seem to be sooo flat…nothing is rounded..anyway he gets commitioned from pretty famouse folk…he used to work with ed years ago at valantines studios 😀

nik

[Nicola McIntosh]

phil you have just answered what ed asked me a few days ago…. 😮

i thought the smaller print on a versacamm was blinding…and also thought the same could be printed by a cadet or any other wide format printer.. 😮 oops got to tell ed the bad news…he asked which was best 😕 phill do you still have your pc600? if so could you post a couple of piccies and let me see the difference in qualty of print 😀 😉

nik

[Gordon Forbes]

Phill on the subject of labels
I dont know what software you are using but scan speed bout 3 – 400, Head 8 passes 720 x 720 res and limit the black a but sharpens em up nice from standard settings.

Goop

[Phill Fenton]

Sorry Nik. I sold the Colorcamm when I bought the Cadet.

If you want to email me some artwork I could print this on my Cadet to let you see for yourself the difference. It really is very negligible (but I would be wrong if I didn’t tell you there was a difference). Overall the Cadet really is far superior to the Colorcamm in terms of speed running cost etc. However, I think the versacamm may have the edge over the Cadet for print quality (although it may have less durability)

[Nicola McIntosh]

thanks phil 😀
will be in touch 😉

nik

[Phill Fenton]

Gordon has a good point. You can set up the Cadet to print higher definition (albeit it takes longer) so with some tweaking it may well be posible to match the ouput from the PC60

[David Rowland]

Andy, well had stunning results with Hexis Artistic Canvas (i think that is the name, there is two we had and the whiter/glossy one was great), also Shiraz has new profile which is nearly bang on.
Have used Dicksons canvas but prefer the Hexis now. Not tried Oce

[Stephen Morriss]

I have a hp 3000 running pigmented inks (have dye as well) it’s really good on canvas as Phill pointed out the weave hides the graininess of the print (600dpi) and it’s better doing paintings than photo’s as I think paintings don’t have anywere near the colours of nature.
I’ve done some very big enlargements of paintings and the results are quite good, probebly not up to the standard that artists would insist on though.

I printed a digital photo of 2 bees on some flowers onto the normal Uniform vinyl for my mother in law on the Cadet and unless you look closely it looks like a photo, very impressed.

I’ve yet to try it on the canvas but will when I get time.

Steve

[Robert Lambie]

i had a sample of canvas sent to me by grafityp. found it printed excellent… though i made some human errors on the colour, the material itself was brill…. as phil has said, i think printing onto these sort of grainy surfaces will eliminate any “real close up” differences in eco and solvent machines.

[Pryam Carter]

I got a sample of canvas from hexis,put it through the versacamm and was amazed at the quality of the print.
Going to do a little line in personalised canvas prints for some extra cash in the run up to christmnas. Got the guy in the unit next door to make the frames at a good price.
Leaflets printed soon, hopefully a bit of a little earner.