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    Posted by Phill Fenton on 3 May 2009 at 11:18

    Yesterday applied some vinyl graphics onto a wall as part of an exhibition for a student friend of my Daughter studying Art at Dundee University.

    When we arrived I discovered that the wall had only just been painted a day or two before and I was concerned that the graphics would be affected by the paint drying. However, we were there now and there was no point in worrying about a problem that for all I knew may not exist.

    This morning the art student went to her exhibition stand to continue working on it only to discover that parts of the design we had applied yesterday had separated from the wall and curled up sticking to itself in places. I just spoke to the student on the phone and explained that I thought the problem was the paint was still drying and that once fully dried the graphics would then bond to the wall properly.

    My dilemma is do I tell her to remove all the vinyl to allow the paint to fully dry out and then go and replace everything (the exhibition is in a few weeks time so there is time to do this). Or do I tell her to leave everything in place in the hope that once the paint is fully dried she can press everything down into place.

    The wall has a textured finish which doesn’t really help.

    If I tell her to leave it all on, and we end up having to replace it all anyway, when we come to peel the old vinyl off we may take away some of the underlying paint leaving a poor surface to re-apply the new vinyl to.

    Advice?

    JasonA replied 16 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 13:01

    It would depend on whether the vinyl that has come off has taken a residue with it…..it may not stick back.
    I’d be inclined to take it all off now as you have time…..repaint if necessary and let it cure properly.

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 15:44

    Hi Phil
    had similar problem . vinyl applied to freshly painted wall and customer decided on change . 👿 so vinyl had to come off it pulled paint as well.
    we had to use filler where the paint came off and then paint again i think it took about three coats of paint till it was all the same.
    if i were you i would take it if off like harry said and redo

    Derek

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 17:15

    Thanks for your replies guys.

    My daughter has since gone along and emailed me some pictures showing the extent of the problem.

    The size of the wall is 8ft high which should give you an indication of scale

    I am reluctant to now remove it as I now don’t think its as bad as I first thought. I am now hoping to trim away the curled section and replace it with a reprint of that part of the design.

    Whatcha think ?

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 17:19

    i remember alison telling me about this job in dundee phil, i would leave it on until the paint does dry, then heat the remainder into place? the thought of taking it all off and paint too, not a nice one 😕

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 17:23

    Hi Phil if that’s the only bit that has failed
    i would try and get that bit stuck down might just be something on the wall
    hope its the right way up

    :lol1:
    Derekk

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 17:28

    Looks like it has a good chance to stick back down with a bit of heat. You may get away with it. 😀

  • John Singh

    Member
    3 May 2009 at 23:04

    I’d be inclined to coax as much back with a heat gun
    What can’t be salvaged trim back and print a new section to fit back

  • James Martin

    Member
    4 May 2009 at 00:07

    Is it a lion Rampant Phil?

    Not that it matters I suppose, just curious.

  • JasonA

    Member
    5 May 2009 at 09:38

    I would never apply vinyl to a freshly painted wall. I’m surprised you don’t have more lifting. Paint dries on the surface pretty quickly but the damp paint underneath will still be "Out-Gassing" for a week or two, until it is dry. I have found this out to my cost. For future reference, if it is emulsion, you can seal it with a watered down PVA mix. The vinyl will stick to this better.

    For now I’d go with what other people have suggested and use some heat to coax it back into place. If you try to remove the graphics, you will lift the paint.

    HTH

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