Anyone here have the Fujifilm Accuity?

[David Rowland]

yeah it looks a great machine, resold here by Sericol/Fuji.
I am going to look at it properly but a very similar machine is the Oce with the new GT350. We have a big sign show in a could of weeks and looking forward to seeing what it can it do

[Robert Lambie]

havent seen or heard anything about it mate… what makes it special to others, does it have a white ink option and what sort of price are we talking for one?

i know a couple of guys out there just now, wish it was me! 😕 but i hate flying and flying later this year so thats enough for me for one year, my pants cant take the pressure cap’n! :lol1:

did you see any other nifty new products out there? just tell me though, nobody else. go on, whisper! 😉 :lol1:

[David Rowland]

well I am looking forward to seeing the machines in person, no doubt we have a proper look at it mate. Hopefully we see some ‘working’ machines at the show who have plenty of scrap materials so we can see productions speeds.

[Scot J]

My main draw is the hybrid ability, with TRUE flat bed option.

The speed (270sq ft/h with very very acceptable quality) destroys the Ion2 which has the hybrid option – and it doesn’t have the belt driven hybrid option that Vutek, Agfa, and other manufactures have.

The price is $160USD, but I know of a floor model I can get for $100-$120k.

The white option is very nice also – and the quality when printing white is phenomenal.

I can’t stress enough though how impressive the quality was. The variable dot technology (as low as 4pl I believe) lets it produce quality that rivals my 1440x720dpi mode on my JV5.

Most important for me though is ink cost- per sq ft in the mid teens, it is way less than my Mimaki – which I’ve spent $30,000~ on in the last 6 months. As well – for styrene jobs I no longer need to print vinyl, laminate and mount – I can merely load the sheet on and go.

I know I can do it with my Colorspan, however the quality is definitley not there. Ideally I’d like a machine that I can print EVERYTHING on (with the exception of wraps etc), and not worry about sacraficing quality.

As for new things at the show – not much. ALOT of the "odd-ball" exhibitors selling nifty gadgets have disappeared this year it seems. I did buy a cool little choroplast cutting tool for $10 – but that was about it. HP did not even have a booth – and many of the exhibitors didn’t bring their new machines. Mimaki brought out the jv33-160, and a FIXED version of the JV5 which they labelled the supreme. I joked with them that they should have called it "we fixed all the broken sh~t model" – but that didn’t fly. They’ve finnally put a decent takeup system on it, as well as beefed up the media locking handle.

The Kongsberg line really blew my mind – I know its not new, but last time I was down I couldn’t dream of affording one, but now a year down the line I’m seriously going to look at the XL line. THe time savings, accuracy and automation of those units is phenomenal!

Thats all for now – I was only down there for 11 hours then flew back (to busy to spare any more time).

[David Rowland]

very interesting comments, i shall spend some time on the Acutiy if they are not demonstrating the Spyder instead this year.

Did they have it connected to Colorgate or Wastach? i be interested to know if they were pluggin Onyx?

[Scot J]

I believe it was colorgate – but they say it works with Onyx as well- however not as well because you can’t access ICC profiles easily (sounds like they’ve never ran Onyx).

They had the Spyder V on the floor as well – forgot to mention that. What a machine. They ran it at 1200sqft/h for a bit -and the quality was alright. Definitely acceptable for 5+ feet veiwable jobs. A little UV banding, but minimal. That whole 320 line is awesome – I REALLY wish it had a hybrid option though. For us we don’t yet need a dedicated machine for each, which is what the Inca/Fuji rep suggest (no supprise there).

[Andre Woodcock]

Hi Scot. I have seen both the Oce Arizona 250GT and Fuji Film Acuity HD2504 in various trade shows and they are impressive machines. Being able to print 8ft x 4ft rigid and 2.2m wide roll media that gives a lot scope. The Oce Arizona 250GT won the DPI Product of the year 07 and several prestigious awards. I also learned the Oce and fujifilm has probably sold more of those UV printers than the big players such as Vutek, Zund, HP/Colorspan etc.

I saw the newer/faster Fuji Film Acuity Advance that includes white ink option drawing large crowd at the Sign & Graphic trade show in Dubai Feb 09. Fuji film was using Colorgate RIP

It is said that the downside of Oce Arizona 250GT and Fuji Film Acuity HD2504 is the UV lamp light leak.

Cheers

Andre

[David Rowland]

thanks Andre, most useful.
Interesting to hear the Fuji has a speed increase, Oce also claimed high sales of the machine and sure enough two were being installed near me.

[Scot J]

Great comments as well!

does the Oce line have the variable dot technology that the new version has? From what I’ve read the Accuity can have a dot range from 5pl to 36pl

Also – I didn’t mention that Fujufilm is launching an X2 version of the Accuity Advanced, allowing for a 8 x 10 print area, so that you can be loading on multiple sheets, or one large sheet. They didn’t have it on the floor though for ISA.

Do you have any info or links to info on the light leak? I’m not to familiar with UV machines so I’m not sure what effects this could have. Perhaps over curing the inks?

[David Rowland]

lol…. thats what oce just done… i think these companies must be working on the same machine… sign uk will tell

[Scot J]

quote Dave Rowland:

lol…. thats what oce just done… i think these companies must be working on the same machine… sign uk will tell

I don’t there is any question there. I’m looking at some photos of the OCE machine – and they ARE identical.

Anyone know if they are owned by the same company or share some division or something?

[David Rowland]

ah … so true… so i need to work out who’s badging who as I have been to where they assemble the Spyder, but didnt’ see the other buildings. Oce claimed they built it… so now i am not sure.

http://www.large-format-printers.org/UV … eviews.php

[Andre Woodcock]

I think the FujiFilm Aquitys are rebadged Oce arizonas
Same as the Fujifilm there are two new models of Océ Arizona, The 350 XT print at speeds up to 23sqm/hr and the Océ Arizona 350 GT prints at 22.2 sqm/hr in production mode. Océ’s VariaDot imaging technology for droplet sizes from 6 – 42 picoliters

http://www.oce.com/sg/specials/oceantides/topic3_mar09

http://global.oce.com/products/arizona3 … cs/flatbed

[Scot J]

Yea – just got off the phone with Oce, definitely manufactured by them. They are actually made here in Canada (perhaps elsewhere also). Works well for me- now I can have the two of them bid for my biz 🙂

[David Rowland]

Scot, I cant find your recent thread about heat curling under the lamps.

Above this message, should be "You have 1 Message", a private message I have sent, click it and you should see it.

[Scot J]

Hey Dave,

for some reason I’m not allowed to send PMs by the admin.

but yea- I have the new KI ink, I’ll get some petg and give it a test for you if you’d like?

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Scot J:

for some reason I’m not allowed to send PMs by the admin.

hi scot only uksb members have the pm facility 😀