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  • Advice on how to gain safe access to roof windows for vinyl application?

    Posted by Phill Fenton on 17 June 2016 at 12:29

    I have been asked to apply vinyls signs onto the glass atrium on top of the roof. My question is what is the best way to gain safe access? It’s quite a shallow roof 30 degrees or so. Any ideas, or do I just walk away from this?


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    George Neagu replied 9 years, 3 months ago 12 Members · 24 Replies
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  • Dan Smith

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 12:35

    I would say the only safe way would be a roofing scaffold.

    But the pricing of that would make your customer run away. If I was honest this is just one of those jobs I would never do purely down to health and safety and the cost of application.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 12:48

    Do it from the inside?

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 12:53

    Any Good Phil ?


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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 13:10

    Kind of what I’m thinking Dan
    They specifically asked for it to be done on the outside David as this is how the building next door has been done
    I’m liking the Helicopter idea Martin, :thumbup2: ( but surely in an instance like this a hard hat and hi vis vest should be worn?)

  • Lee Reeves

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 13:22

    Would a cherry picker boom lift be suitable you can hire them from a local tool hire company for about £150 a day.

  • Dan Smith

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 13:30

    It could potentially be useful. Well only if you have IPAF trained staff anyway.

    The only issue even with a lift is that you will have to be leaning out of the basket a lot to apply this. They are not really made to work with this sort of application. Would be safer than roofing ladders but would be inconvenient with the basket getting in the way

  • Seun Aderibigbe

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 13:55

    How about a rope access company, you supply the vinyl and they’ll install it.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 14:12

    Just spotted a major flaw in your plan Martin….
    Won’t the downdraft from the helicopter blades wreak havoc with the self adhesive vinyl? How do you expect me to be able to fit this in what would amount to a 70mph Gale force wind 🙄

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    17 June 2016 at 14:27
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Just spotted a major flaw in your plan Martin….
    Won’t the downdraft from the helicopter blades wreak havoc with the self adhesive vinyl? How do you expect me to be able to fit this in what would amount to a 70mph Gale force wind 🙄

    I did think of that Phill, but if you use wet application, you may just be alright 😕

    Alternate suggestion below :thumbup2:


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  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    18 June 2016 at 00:14

    I take it those windows don’t open inward for cleaning at all.

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    18 June 2016 at 05:58

    2 cherrypickers coming from opposite sides of the building working together.
    One to go to the apex and one to go below.
    With a bloke in each bucket holding an end each of the vinyl
    😀

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    18 June 2016 at 11:35

    What about hiring the guys that did the Barlinnie Prison Riot banners? Located not far from you and i am sure most will be out by now. [emoji1]


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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    18 June 2016 at 17:11

    Somehow Rob I don’t think you and Martin C are taking this seriously enough, and I even have my doubts about Simon..[emoji53]

  • Dan Smith

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 11:03

    I think the message from most members is to avoid the job

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 11:25
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Somehow Rob I don’t think you and Martin C are taking this seriously enough, and I even have my doubts about Simon..[emoji53]

    :lol1:

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 11:46

    Any idea where I can hire one of these from?


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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 15:12

    Phill, do you think one of those would be practical given you need to be able to squeegee whilst using those control’s?
    H&S would have a feild day with you if spotted hovering above Remax!

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 15:16

    I’ve thought of that, I would be using auto pilot…

  • NeilRoss

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 18:23

    Looks like you’re going to have to resort to the time honoured device – strategically placed of course!

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    19 June 2016 at 18:48

    Phil
    maybe pick up some sky hooks & a long wait as a counter balance

    Kev

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    20 June 2016 at 08:30
    quote Kevin Flowers:

    Phil
    maybe pick up some sky hooks & a long wait as a counter balance

    Kev

    If you think Phil is going to need that sort of specialist gear Kev then he might just need a spur lash as well.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    20 June 2016 at 10:13

    Well I sent an email off to my customer today explaining the difficulty in gaining safe access, and as some of my chums on the UKSB were being less than helpful with their suggestions, I was unable to offer a supply and fit service.

    The building next door has signs on the atrium though (which is what prompted the enquiry) – I’d love to know how they did it 😕

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    20 June 2016 at 10:45
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Well I sent an email off to my customer today explaining the difficulty in gaining safe access, and as some of my chums on the UKSB were being less than helpful with their suggestions, I was unable to offer a supply and fit service.

    Wise move Phill….

    Although between us I thought we had it well resolved. 😕

  • George Neagu

    Member
    22 June 2016 at 13:00
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Well I sent an email off to my customer today explaining the difficulty in gaining safe access, and as some of my chums on the UKSB were being less than helpful with their suggestions, I was unable to offer a supply and fit service.

    The building next door has signs on the atrium though (which is what prompted the enquiry) – I’d love to know how they did it 😕

    It depends a lot on how tall the building is and how tall the atrium is but a solution like this might have done the job.
    http://www.angliahandling.co.uk/ladder-platform.html
    Also, I would have tried to talk with the guys next door and ask how that has been done. It’s worth to learn.

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