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  • Advice on fitting print heads please?

    Posted by Jason Williams on 10 July 2011 at 13:37

    After many head cleans and deflection with the black head on my sp300
    i’ve been and brought three new printheads for a Epson 10000 water based ink as there were loads cheaper.
    The only problem was the last time i had an engineer round to fit one
    i flushed it with iso 100% the flushed it with rolands solvent flushing fluid.
    but we ended up having quite a few blockages in both sides of the head.
    so re fitted the old head. Just trying to find out if any of you have fitted the epson dx-4 and did you flush them with anything before fitting.

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  • David Rowland

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 14:08

    ok… well there is a rubber sealing ring inside the print head when it is taken apart that should be changed and you may need to change the metal surround around the bottom of the print head. That will make the head solvent compatible.

    no need to flush head prior but their is a HEAD ID code that needs to be written down before you put it in.

    CAnt speak about Roland’s procedure, but it is important for the Mimakis

  • Jason Williams

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 14:42

    Thanks Dave
    forgot to say i have fitted the solvent seal and cap top.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 18:06

    By cap top i hope you mean the manifold which Epson are not solvent proof.
    The id is entered before you remove the old one as it can’t be checked later.
    Only ever use the correct fluid iso prop and others like it will dry to quick and block nossels.
    Other pit fall is make sure the anti static strip is fitted and not bent

  • David Rowland

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 18:18

    take care removing dampers too … break the top of the pin (on the manifold) and u be crying, well getting another manifold isn’t too hard

  • Andrew Martin

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 18:41

    I have changed DX4 printheads on my mimaki, there is a few pitfalls to look out for which will be probably simular to a Roland, then you have the problem of head alignment, this took me longer to do than change the head itself.

    As mentioned water based heads will need their manifolds and o rings changed for solvent type use.

    But you will need to flush heads of water based heads prior to using them for solvent use as they ship with a slight water based fluid in them.

    The other thing is on water based DX4 heads there is two head id stickers on top of each other, the top one is for the intended water based use under this is the id you need for solvent use.

  • Jason Williams

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 19:02

    Thanks Andrew
    did you just flush the new head with a solvent flush or somthing else.

  • Andrew Martin

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 20:19

    I used the flush thats compatable with my inks… i injected 10cc very slowly with a damper attached using a syringe and tubing from an old pump.

  • Jason Williams

    Member
    10 July 2011 at 20:28

    Thanks Andrew
    I’ll let you know how it works out

  • Jason Williams

    Member
    12 July 2011 at 18:13

    Well things did not go well.
    1/ fitted solvent head caps and rubber
    2/ fitted new capping station
    3/ new dampers
    4/flushed the each side of the head with 10ml of eco sol flush through
    a new damper
    5/ fitted the head and spent a little time trying to get a seal as it was
    not pulling the ink through.
    6/ 20 + blocked nozzels and a few deflections
    7/ many head cleans later 4 blocked and 2 5 bad deflections.

    think i’m goining to give it up and get roland in

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  • Chris Wool

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    12 July 2011 at 19:16

    bit of a bummer that, you sure the pump is ok

  • David Rowland

    Member
    12 July 2011 at 19:22

    Sounds like pump or capping is not sealing well

    Do you see ink moving in the tubes as it pumps? is there any rubber blocks near the pumps? can u see ink dripping out of the waste tank end?

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    12 July 2011 at 19:58

    other check is.

    tell the printer to do a nozzel check and as the head is at the left end lift the front cover to stop it.
    put some fluid on the capping station and operated the pump by hand you should see the capping station sucked dry almost immediately.
    close the front cover and the head will finish and park its self.

  • Andrew Martin

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    13 July 2011 at 07:42

    You say you had 20 + blocked nozzles and a few deflections, But after
    many head cleans later you have 4 blocked and 25 bad deflections..so it sounds like to me that ink is being pulled through and at least your going in the right direction as far as unblocking the nozzles, try soaking the heads in flush solution, is there a nozzle wash facility on your machine to do this ?

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