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  • A little help for a sign newcomer – brackets

    Posted by Rory Elph on 4 January 2013 at 12:18

    Hello everyone!

    I stumbled across the forum yesterday and theres some great tips around so I thought I’d sign up! I’m a graphic designer / illustrator based in london with a lot of interest in sign writing and signs in general.

    I was wondering if I could ask for some help, I’ve recently been given the job of creating 50 numbered signs for an indoor market and I’m finding it extremely hard to find reasonably priced brackets to place each sign on. To make it harder on myself each sign is a hexagon!

    Myself and my colleagues wanted to have each sign swing, but the only reasonable alternative seemed to be a bracket, illustrated below – although practical its not the greatest looking thing..

    Each hexagon measures 25cm point to point

    I’m curious to hear if any of you experienced folk have any ideas!

    thanks,

    Rory


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  • NeilRoss

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 12:57

    Looks light and for indoor so how about these small plastic flag-poles you see fixed to the wall with a couple of screws and angled at ~ 45 deg or so. Hang the signs using nylon fishing line to the two top corners/shoulders – something like that?

  • Rory Elph

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 13:15

    Hi Neil

    thanks for the suggestion.

    They will be cut from 12mm plywood so not too heavy, so not sure if the plastic would hold them.

    We initially wanted something like below (ignore the rectangle design) but its quite pricey when you want 50 or more, so looking for a cheap alternative, or if you have any other suggestions that would be grand.

    thanks


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  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 14:26

    Have you tried a local blacksmith for prices? Might get a better price that way on a quantity of 50. Other thing is that I wouldn’t use ply for the job, far to time consuming with sanding, priming & painting. 3mm composite would be ok for the job, easy to cut & ready to put graphics on with a quick wipe to clean.

  • David McDonald

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 14:42

    Hi

    The bracket could just be a flat plate, screwed from the side into the edge of the MDF (needs to be thick enough), so you don’t have the ‘flanges’ coming into the hexagon either side which spoils the look??

    If you are having the MDF pieces CNC’d why not get the fixing plates milled at the same time in similar hexagon shapes to match, or ovals – brushed (Butler) alicomp would be good. I’d make the height of the plate the same as the edge of MDF touching the wall, will look better and wont wobble.

    Cheers
    Macky

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 14:51

    cheap and be-spoke shouldn’t be associated.

    both of your illustrations look overkill with regards to the build
    and more so if you want to keep the price low.

    cutting them in wood will take allot of labour… prepping, sanding, staining, varnishing etc. you then still have your brackets and lettering to include, not forgetting ease of installation.

    cost is obviously a factor for you, so i would suggest a CNC router cut aluminium sign blank cut to shape, with a fold for fixing.
    the whole thing digitally printed either side with the woodgrain effect and text included.
    only a few screws needed, one man and each installed in 5 minutes.

    trade supplier
    http://www.signwaves.co.uk/products/Pro … ns/6-0-271

  • NeilRoss

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 15:56

    Probably depends very much what you’ve agreed with the client regarding presentation and impression etc. Otherwise I’d go with what Rob says – sounds like the quick, efficient and tidy solution – modern too, if price is the main issue.

  • Rory Elph

    Member
    4 January 2013 at 16:10

    Hi guys,

    thanks for the advice, (Before I start I should probably add here that the signs will be double sided.)

    We are keen to keep the signs wooden, we know the work involved and have got a fair quote for the custom cuts from a local carpenter. However, I’m curious about the composite, I’m not familiar with it.. (as I said I am a newcomer!) can you get a deep varnish effect like the first image I showed? Also we wanted the edges painted, could you get a 12mm thickness or similar?

    Martin, I think we will try get a quote from a local blacksmith and also talk to our carpenter about the composite.

    David, the flat plate suggestion is a great alternative to what we already had illustrated above, I just wasn’t entirely sure the 12mm plywood would hold the screws.

    Robert, As you say cheap and bespoke shouldn’t be associated and for this job we want to find the right balance. Often very hard to do so, I’m sure you’ll all agree. The market is full of handmade arts and crafts and we wanted to reflect this in our design of the signs, and so we decided we should hand paint each one, as we think the aesthetics would work well throughout the market.

    many thanks

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