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Am looking to replace my old Mimaki CJV 30-60, advice please?
Hello everyone
I am looking to upgrade, fed up of outsourcing and now it is beboming busier for me I can justify the extra expense.
I am torn between a Mimaki CJV-150-130 and the HP 315 with the Summa D140 print and cut bundle. I have quotes for both and they about the same price. I have the room for 2 machines. At present I only use the cut option on the CJV 30-60 when I have printed something on it and it requires a contour cut. Any other vinyl is cut on my Graphtec.
I don’t do wrapping so am not concerned about this side of production otherwise it is the normal things. Banners, roll up banners, stickers, decals and garment printing.I like the Green side of the latex, the ease of the maintinance head changes and the such. The fredoom to be printing whilst still cutting also appeals as I would still need to be cutting garment vinyl and normal vinyl for other jobs.
I like the Mimaki as this is what I am used to and they are an established name in our line of work and there seems to still be profile issues and other niglie bits with HP. I could keep my Graphtec to use as a seperate cutter for the normal and garment vinyl. I am not technically minded so the costs of even simple repairs is a scary prospect. Yes I know there are service plans.
This is a big step for me in building my business and the services I can offer.
Any advice is gratefully accepted.
Thank you.
Iain
EDIT
I have just been contacted by one of the companies who quoted the Mimaki price as I also asked them to price the HP print and cut bundle to see if they were competative with my other quote.They have informed me that they wouldn’t sell me a HP latex system as these are not suited for print and cut signage as the heat required to print distorts the vinyl to much and the cutting is never correct. I find this a bit strange but any one with this experience?
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I’ve had a 315 bundle for over a year and never had a days problem with it.
Maybe the people giving you the quotes makes higher margins on the Mimaki – just saying [emoji106] -
quote Iain Pearson:I’ve had a 315 bundle for over a year and never had a days problem with it.
Maybe the people giving you the quotes makes higher margins on the Mimaki – just saying [emoji106]That was my thinking as well which just puts me off of dealing with them. I know a salesman has a job but I hate being sold to. I know what I want and just want the best price.
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Just to put it in the mix. Have you looked into the Mutoh valuejet?
I believe they are well priced compared to other brands. Maybe not as all singing and dancing as others but this also means better reliability in my eyes. Had my used one 2 years now and its been great.
I would see if theres a price difference.
Price and reliability would be top of my list. Do the research on issues with different brands and go from there
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Could be wrong but I did notice in a catalog recently that a few garment films are not latex suitable and then others that were but more expensive. Didn’t read to much info as we are on solvent but something in back of my mind to look at when upgrade time comes.
I just know I have a few customers that know what they want. They’ve had lots of it before and god help us all if the yellow tone in the print changed ever so slightly. Am sure you could match it with some tweaking but it’s time at end of the day. Even worse if it makes it to a big bundle of tops and they kick up a stink.
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quote Chris Wilson:Could be wrong but I did notice in a catalog recently that a few garment films are not latex suitable and then others that were but more expensive. Didn’t read to much info as we are on solvent but something in back of my mind to look at when upgrade time comes.
I just know I have a few customers that know what they want. They’ve had lots of it before and god help us all if the yellow tone in the print changed ever so slightly. Am sure you could match it with some tweaking but it’s time at end of the day. Even worse if it makes it to a big bundle of tops and they kick up a stink.
I try not to do digital print garment vinyl anyway so this is not a major factor but would find one suitable and keep it in stock.
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We’ve had Roland and Mimaki.
One deciding factor might be how far away is a service engineer for the machine you are looking at. While everyone will travel, it does bump up the cost up and also when they can come.
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I am based in Surrey and both the suppliers/engineers are within 45 mins drive. So not to bad for travel time.
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Why don’t you contact Loic from Josero, he advertises on these boards and really is a knowledgable guy on machines.
He won’t try and push a machine on you but try and help with the right solution based on your needs
Worth a chat
Josero Limited
Unit 13 Buckingway Business Park
Anderson Road
Swavesey
CB24 4AE
+44 (0) 1954 232564
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I have my HP print & cut bundle for over a year. It hasn’t cooled & has been bullet proof. Easier on ink than solvents, better prints & there is no maintenance. I doubt I’ll ever be back to solvent. That’s rubbish about the print & cut because we cut loads of labels.
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