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    Posted by Gary Thornton on 7 September 2017 at 16:26

    Hi all. Can anybody help me?
    I am working on some bottle labels for a client. Printing on to MD3 clear, laying down white ink for a base layer, then the colour over the white or second layer of white where required on to the lettering sections.
    My issue is… the white is very transparent. I am trying to replicate a label which has been sourced from another supplier (which has "solid" white).
    For clarification, the SUMMER FRUITS, GIN and LIQUEUR should be solid white.

    Can anyone give me any pointers please, or am I expecting too much from the Roland EcoSol Max 2 white ink?

    I take the white cartridge out and shake it every day or two like the Roland tech advised me and I’ve done a test print and the white is present.

    I rarely use the white ink, but I’ve never been very satisfied with the results up to this point,

    I look forward to hearing from anyone with this experience.


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    Chris Wool replied 8 years ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

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    7 September 2017 at 18:53

    I use white would expect better than that.
    You sure all the white nozels are working …..do you do extra manual circulations after shaking the cart.
    I use the standard clear adhesive profile

  • Chris Jarvis

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    8 September 2017 at 16:38

    Hi Gary,

    I use Max 2 white.
    Your print looks as opaque as mine.

    I only use white to back up colour on clear and mirror self adhesive material.
    Never on its own.

    I wish it was as opaque as old silk screen white ink.

    Chris

  • Chris Jarvis

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    8 September 2017 at 17:13

    ‘Tried to replicate the white sticker on a clear jar situation. (Tikka in this case)
    Here is a block of white I printed the other day on clear vinyl,(Roland BN-20) and below (the complex design) is part of the actual white sample I was given when I went to view the machine at Grafityp.

    There’s no difference between the two.

    Are these examples more opaque than your’s though?
    Chris could well be right.


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  • Chris Wool

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    8 September 2017 at 17:52

    just slapped this on a coffee jar was on cling film but should not alter the outcome

    chris w


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  • Chris Wool

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    8 September 2017 at 17:55

    never get pics right and max2 white


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  • Gary Thornton

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    9 September 2017 at 14:54

    Thanks for taking the time to reply and going the extra mile by posting pictures of what I should expect.

    I think because I rarely use the white, because I haven’t had the best results, the ink wasn’t particularly thick (if that’s the right word?)

    I shook the cartridge and carried out plenty of cleans and the ink seemed to thicken up; become more vibrant.

    I also turned up the white up to number 5 in versaworks , under the colour adjustment.

    Eventually after a bit of huffing and puffing I got this result, which I’m happy with.

    Can anyone tell me what cleaning/ maintenance process you do for your white ink. :thumbsup:


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  • Chris Jarvis

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    9 September 2017 at 15:54

    I don’t do anything different for white ink.
    ‘Just make sure the cartridge is shaken from time to time.
    I think white is the one that really does need to be agitated. It’s different to the CMYK inks.

    I’ve just replaced a white cartridge that was perfect from start to finish.
    The new one petered out half way down the first white ink job. Backing up some car window stickers.
    I’ve got it working now though. This coincided with a manual clean.

    It’s interesting that you can adjust the white in VersaWorks.
    I bet that’s an option I haven’t got?
    I’ll see.

    Anyhow Gary, the 100% white part on your last print look fine.

  • Chris Wool

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    9 September 2017 at 20:27

    That’s better well done
    . A few extra manual recirculation don’t go amiss

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