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  • Laminating over Eco-Solvent Prints, advice please?

    Posted by Mark Banks on 7 July 2017 at 11:19

    Okay here we go my first post possibly a daft question but this is a brand-new area of work for me. I’m sure somebody told me in the past that eco solvent inks didn’t need to be laminated, I may have misunderstood them so if this is not quite true can anyone tell me how long approximately and I know it will depend on the weather conditions but approximately how long would eco solvent print last indoors and outdoors.
    TIA
    Mark

    Mark Banks replied 8 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • David Rogers

    Member
    7 July 2017 at 11:31

    Indoors – basically forever as no UV or weathering.

    outdoors – UV only – 1-2 years still fine, 3 years until it’s really faded – 10 years and it’ll be a distant memory with only blues and black remaining…

    3-5 years of UV protection WITH.

    Remember it also provides scuff, solvent, cleaning, wear protection – 5 minutes without…

  • Mark Banks

    Member
    7 July 2017 at 13:46

    Thanks for that David that is a great help.

  • Chris Windebank

    Member
    7 July 2017 at 16:06

    and lamination makes it a hell of a lot easier to fit

    Laminate everything here

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    7 July 2017 at 17:56

    I agree. Laminate everything. For a few extra quid it will save you a lot of hassle. Even applying it to boards is much easier.

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    7 July 2017 at 19:36
    quote David Stevenson:

    I agree. Laminate everything. For a few extra quid it will save you a lot of hassle. Even applying it to boards is much easier.

    ime with the laminating everything club

    remembering to let it out gas properly at least overnight

    derek

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    7 July 2017 at 22:39

    No matter what ink type you use, if un-laminated, the ink begins to break down its resistance to all things over a matter of weeks. The best performing "all-rounder" without lamination is UV.

    When you provide a print job to your customer look on the prints in the following way…
    which of the following damage types, will your prints be subjected too?

    * UV Damage
    * Chemicals Damage
    * Abrasion Damage

    1, If the answer is none of the above, then there is no lamination required.
    2, If your prints are going on a vehicle of any description, they will be subjected to all of the above. There for lamination is paramount.
    Same applies for signage etc just consider which of the above will it be subjected too. As has been said, safest bet is lamination but would you laminate a correx sign? Answer is NO, because the print will far out-live the actual board substrate itself.

    Lamination is also used to create desired effects, such as high gloss finish, matt finish, ant-graffiti, foot slip prevention etc etc

    .

  • Jasper McEwan

    Member
    13 July 2017 at 06:58

    That was pretty well put Rob :thumbsup: – makes it pretty simple with the examples you gave.

    I would just add though Mark, when laminating make sure you use the matching laminate for the print vinyl you are using. If you print on a monomeric vinyl then laminate with a monomeric laminate.

    Not all laminating films are equal and ideally you should use a laminate from the same manufacturer of the film you are printing on.

  • Mark Banks

    Member
    14 July 2017 at 05:42

    All good advice thank You, I have bought a laminater should be delivered next week .

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