Home Forums Sign Making Discussions General Sign Topics Printed Clothing Advice Please

  • Printed Clothing Advice Please

    Posted by Warren Beard on 28 April 2016 at 09:01

    Hi All

    Need to get some company shirts made but needs to be a print, I’m worried about the life span of a printed shirt graphic (small run order and many colours so think silk screen is out of the questions) So need to find out if pressed prints or direct to garment printing is good and will last on shirts?

    Anybody have any advice for good quality long lasting shirt printing?

    Thanks

    Warren

    Warren Beard replied 9 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 14 Replies
  • 14 Replies
  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 11:20

    We have used the printable iron on stuff from Grafityp, printed on the Versacamm. We Don’t really offer this service for customers but we have done our own shirts and some for a friend and was really suprised how long they have lasted.
    I have on at the moment which is about a year old.


    Attachments:

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 11:28

    Thanks Martin, good to see that but would be interested in a higher quality finish I think. I was told that direct to garment printing will outlast the shirt but could just be sales talk so hope to get some additional feedback.

    Thanks for taking the time to reply.

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 14:58

    Warren
    if you are using Max 3 inks there was something on the boards a few months ago about it not working too well with some tshirt materials, just a word of warning.

    Kev

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 15:03

    Yeah don’t think I’ll get the quality I want using solvent and think it needs to be DTG due to number of colours in the logo. Needs to be high quality and last well before I worry about costs.

  • David Mitchell

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 17:42

    kev that was me that had the trouble with inks, but found a media that works from xpres and its sound,

    how many would u be looking for warren i can send u a sample print if that helps?

  • Denise Goodfellow

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 17:50

    Every process has its good bits and bad bits.

    Direct to garment is fine if the garment is very flat or a very close weave.
    You first have to pretreat the garment which can leave a mark, similar to when you heatpress a shirt and you leave a big square shape.

    Direct to garment isn’t the holy grail, it does fade, especially the first wash. If the pretreatment isn’t done correct Most of the image could come off

    Have you thought about embroidery…

  • David Hammond

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 18:33

    We have our workwear embroided. The guy we use is very good… in that he doesn’t skimp on stitches, where I’ve seen people get an embroided shirt for £6, and the logos bearly readable!

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 19:06

    The logo is very multicoloured and detailed so not sure if embroidery will work or be cost effective, like silk screen where there’s so many small bits of colour it may also not be cost effective.

    I do think print is the way but what process?

    Denise, are you saying that DTG is good but only if done right? I’ll be looking for somebody who can do it right, like I said I want quality over price.

    We have shirt vinyl we can print on our Roland but from what I’ve seen I don’t think I’m going to be 100% happy with that or at least not after a short while if it fades and cracks.

    I guess I just need to know the best process and I’ll try find somebody who can deliver 😉

    cheers

    Warren

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 21:14

    Warren
    even screen print & DTG will crack on things like woven Polos & Sweat Shirts just from the fact that they are stretchable fabric

    Kev

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    28 April 2016 at 21:40

    so how do they make clothes you buy in the shops that don’t crack? I’m not being funny but there must be a process for garment printing that "works" ?

    Hopefully :lol1:

    We won’t be using Polos but cotton shirts, not 100% sure on jumper/sweater/fleece/etc or jacket as yet but not polo shirts :shake:

  • Denise Goodfellow

    Member
    29 April 2016 at 05:56

    Personally, I think ur looking at it abit wrong.

    As an embroiderer, screen printing shop, we get customers to allow us to slightly adjust the logo so it can be done in a way that is best.

    Screen printing, we reduce the colours or dum it down.
    Embroidery we remove small text

    We have polos with a printed heat pressed logo, as we are in the business we get new shirts every 3 months, polos cost £4 to buy after all

    The only way forward is to get a single shirt printed and do wash tests to see if they live up to your expectations

    At sign uk we saw the toner system using an ok I with white in, that looked quite good until I washed the sample…..

  • Denise Goodfellow

    Member
    29 April 2016 at 05:59

    Don’t forget clothing in the shops oftern get printed as a cut panel then sewed up later

    And they print 1000’s in one go so it’s cost effective and it’s done in sweatshops in Asia

  • Chris Windebank

    Member
    29 April 2016 at 07:46

    Hi Warren, have a look at this company, something different.
    http://www.heatseal.co.uk/products/raised-rubber/

    If you want to send me the logo you want I can digitise and do a sample embroidery for you so you at least see what its like

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    29 April 2016 at 08:34

    Thanks everyone

    The logo isn’t really possible to simplify or at least I don’t want to, embroidery could work fine but that’s what I’m trying to find out, just the fact it’s a 15 colour design made me think print would be the best option.

Log in to reply.