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  • Applying gold detail vinyl to a window frosting strip

    Posted by Neil Beckett on 14 September 2012 at 10:40

    Hi all,

    Please find attached a little photoshop visual for which the owner now wishes to proceed with.

    Ive designed a frosted strip with a gold emblem inbetween the cutout of the restaurant name.

    Q1. What would be the best way to produce this? If I put the gold detail on the glass first it would prove nearly impossible to get them into correct position prior to applying the frosting effect wet. This will be my first wet application attempt.

    Q2. I take it the small gold detail’s won’t stress the glass too much?

    Q3. How about the main sign (purple panel) its under eaves and so out of direct sunlight, but Melbourne does have its 40 degree plus days. Could this still stress the glass too much?
    Any thoughts on tackling these issues would be greatly appreciated!


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    Neil Beckett replied 13 years ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    14 September 2012 at 11:12

    I would place an outline around each emblem and cut this out of the etch glass section so that each emblem is not being backed with the etch vinyl.

    My only concern is the amount of detail and the small size of the emblem. Have you done a test cust to make sure it can actually be weeded at this size?

    Great visual by the way – It’s almost impossible to detect that this is a mock up and not the real thing 😀

  • Jack Hendrie

    Member
    14 September 2012 at 18:35

    you could have the frosted on the inside and gold on the outside i suppose if the cuting out dont work

  • Stuart Miller

    Member
    16 September 2012 at 10:01

    You could also try layering the gold on top of the frost after installation as it should still show through the frost, just not quite as strong.

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    18 September 2012 at 10:21

    Thank you for your feeback, some good ideas there Ive not considered. I may test it behind the frosting if it looks OK, or make a cutout for each gold leaf detail if it looks too lost. It also looks like I may have to simplify the gold leaf design as pointed out I think it will be impossible to weed.

    How about the potential for the wiondow cracking given the large dark (purple) vinyl on the window? Is this risky?

    Thanks.

  • Stuart Miller

    Member
    18 September 2012 at 10:33

    Depends on several factors.
    Is glass Toughened or Laminated?
    Does glass get direct sunlight?
    Does glass get an initial shading pattern? this means is a section of the pane shaded by any obstructions such as trees, building projections, etc first thing in the morning when the glass may be cold from the night air and warmed quickly in some parts by hot sun while other parts remain cold. does this initial shading pattern cross where the vinyl is creating even more of a temperature differential?
    Always best if in doubt to explain about thermal stress and that adding graphics could increase the chance of it. then ask customer if willing to take the risk.

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    18 September 2012 at 10:44

    Thanks Stuart,

    Food for thought.

    Just looked on google maps and the shop faces the south east, so most exposure will be in the morning. From the photo shown in UKSB3.jpg, this was taken later in the day and I can still see partial exposure of the left window to direct light.

    thanks.

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    20 September 2012 at 10:49

    The existing black and gold panel is fitted on the glass on inside of the restaurant. Not sure that makes a difference?

  • Stuart Miller

    Member
    20 September 2012 at 14:30

    Main concern is if it is Laminated or Toughened glass and if Double glazed.
    Are you thinking of installing on inside or outside?

    I didn’t notice the existing black panels at first. If those are already there with no problem then replacing them with purple should not be a concern as I would think the purple reflects more and absorbs less solar heat. So already tested.

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    21 September 2012 at 09:45

    Thanks Stuart.
    I’ll go ahead with it then and just to be extra safe maybe position the new sign slightly higher which should also assist with shading.
    Planning to put the vinyl on the exterior as the reflection on the glass does detract with the original black/gold sign. I’m pretty sure its toughened glass. Looks pretty thick. Like you say even if the old sign was on the inside, being black, its been ok and been there years. Will be nice to tie everything in as I made the banner for them also.

    cheers,
    Neil.

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