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What’s the chances of this vinyl causing the glass to crack?
Hi all,
As many of you know I’m still pretty new to this game.
I have attached a photoshop visual of a logo (not designed by me) that a customer wants on a back side window of their 4wd. Using Metamark 7 Series vinyl.Will be doing 4 layers to make this.
Q1. Should I do this wet or dry?
Q2. Given that the sun can be pretty strong here (Melbourne), what’s the chances of the vinyl heating too much and causing the glass to crack?
Many thanks,
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quote Neil Beckett:Hi all,As many of you know I’m still pretty new to this game.
I have attached a photoshop visual of a logo (not designed by me) that a customer wants on a back side window of their 4wd. Using Metamark 7 Series vinyl.Will be doing 4 layers to make this.
Q1. Should I do this wet or dry?
Q2. Given that the sun can be pretty strong here (Melbourne), what’s the chances of the vinyl heating too much and causing the glass to crack?
Many thanks,
Neil.[/img]Thermal breakage usually occurs due to use of colours that absorb such as black etc. I wouldn’t worry in this instance.
I would layer this up dry on the vehicle.
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Thanks for your feedback Jason. The red being used will be M7-101 Deep Red. As its a deep colour I thought this may stress the glass unevenly. This deep red will be placed onto the first layer which is a matte white circle.
Has anyone experienced heat glass breakage as a result of vinyl application?
thanks,
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Also to add to what Jason said Neil the thermal stress usually happens on really cold mornings when there is a shadow across the glass. The sunny part of the glass heats up more than the shaded part causing a differential in heat on the glass. Where that happens sometimes you can get a crack.
I wouldn’t worry a bit about this job mate.
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Thanks for your feedback Jason and Lee, this is a pig of a job; the circle comprises of hundreds of tiny gaps. Weeding it has been a nightmare.
I just hope it all comes off the app tape OK when fitting as some lines are so fine. Next time I get a job like this one the price doubles. Just glad for the experience for now.
cheers,
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Yeah mate…Bin there done that 😉
Learn to reverse weed – That’ll make life much easier for finniky stuff. Also don’t be scared to simplify someone’s graphic if it’s not going to work. You’re the expert, not the client 😉
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or get it digital printed
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Looks like that is only 2 colours Neil, if that’s the case then its only 2 layers, white with red on top.
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I thought that too Martin/Phil (spin)
Looks like the text is beige colour to me, but the letters in the logo are white
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Thanks all,
Ive done the "sas" lettering on another layer to go on top of the Red circle. there is also a cream used on the wording "hairdressing studio", looking at it now I suppose I could have cut the "SAS" wording out of the red layer as there is a white layer underneath it instead of creating a new layer 🙄 .
layer1 is the white blob/circle
layer2 is the red circle and rings
layer 3 white "mornington" copy and SAS copy.
layer 4 is the cream.cheers,Neil.
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All this talk about thermal stress is only really relevant to architectural flat glass applications on Annealed or Laminated glass.
It is never really an issue on a vehicle as usually the glass is toughened.
Occasionally you come across laminated glass on vehicles such as the front windscreen and some roll down side glasses on a few vehicles but I would guess that that glass will be toughened.
When tinting vehicles we heat the glass to a far higher temp with a heat gun than you would probably ever get absorbed from the sun, even in black vinyl.
So I would not expect there to be any danger using any coloured vinyl on vehicles glass such as this. -
Well made point Stu.
Hey have you ever exploded a rear screen? I’ve had three go on me in the years before we used to heat shrink.
Go off like a bloody bomb and are pretty spectacular.
Hard to explain to the customer though 😉
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Thanks all for putting my mind at rest 😛
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