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  • Vinyl Flooding Windows

    Posted by Adam Zeit on 2 August 2011 at 10:19

    Hi,

    We have some 10-15 windows 120/200 cm inside a bulding to flood with Oracal Black Color Vinyl. Would like to get some tips for the job. Would you do it wet or dry? Also, since the windows are inside alum frames that are rather wide, there is no space to make a hinge with tape. Is there a chance there is a video turorial for this?

    Thanks Ahead

    Adam Zeit replied 14 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 11:33

    I would do it wet. Nice easy job.

  • Stuart Miller

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 11:33

    Its personal preference to do wet or dry.
    I’d do a wet application as I tend to get better results on glass that way, and also because you have to push it into the frame the water will stop it grabbing there.
    I would oversize by 40mm. roll up with liner inside of roll.
    Spray glass and frame (so vinyl does not grab to frame).
    Pull back liner 100 – 200mm and spray it. Place on the wet glass and slide top edge up to align along top of glass with a couple of cm overlapping the frame at each side.
    Lock the top in place by using a squeegee. As I tint windows I would use a tinting squeegee rather than just a hard card.
    With the top fixed in place you can then unroll the vinyl by pulling the liner and if required keep spraying between glass and vinyl until all unrolled to base of window.
    Then I would spray the outside of the vinyl and squeegee all water out with overlapping horizontal strokes to within a few centimetres of each edges.
    The edges are then trimmed by making a relief cut from corner of pane to corner of the vinyl so the edges can be pushed into the frame without creasing at the corners. Then run a knife down the frame edge to trim to size and finish by using a hard card covered in paper or microfibre towel to lay down the edges and get all moisture from edges.

    There are many variations on this so really its a matter of trial and error to find what suits you. many will do this dry.
    Some will cut the vinyl to size before install.
    If windows are definitely square then you can line up top edge and one side rather than overlapping two sides.
    If doing wet make sure the vinyl has a solvent based adhesive.
    Good luck

  • Nicholas Gormley

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 12:24

    Stuart – a bit off topic but were do you buy your window tinting squeegee??

  • Chris Windebank

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 12:25

    personally I would use black blockout window film rather than vinyl for ease of fitting and use Stuarts method

  • Chris Windebank

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 12:27

    Nicholas, try the toolbar under 1, C window film suppliers. I use Patinamatrix for tool supplies though

  • Stuart Miller

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 12:42

    I usually use my film suppliers Bekaert or Bonwyke.
    If you look under window film suppliers on the toolbar you will find Bonwyke.
    Once on their site look under downloads then tools Brochure.
    The one I like for vinyl/frost is the Clear Max blade GT203 on page 06. with the unger pro handle.

  • Stephen Henderson

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 14:34

    I do a lot of window block outs in lots of tight spaces.I clean the glass that I am going to apply to with the "baby bath mixture" and squeegee it off.
    Then I re-soak it with the same stuff and turn the vinyl into the glass, pull away backing paper and soak the sticky side of the vinyl, then flip the vinyl round sticky(wet) side to the glass and squeegee out with a window cleaner type squeegee, then go over it with a hard plastic application grade squeegee, if I get "dog ears" I go back to them after I have done the remainder of the job and simply squeegee them out.

  • Stuart Miller

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 15:03
    quote Stephen Henderson:

    I do a lot of window block outs in lots of tight spaces.I clean the glass that I am going to apply to with the “baby bath mixture” and squeegee it off.
    Then I re-soak it with the same stuff and turn the vinyl into the glass, pull away backing paper and soak the sticky side of the vinyl, then flip the vinyl round sticky(wet) side to the glass and squeegee out with a window cleaner type squeegee, then go over it with a hard plastic application grade squeegee, if I get “dog ears” I go back to them after I have done the remainder of the job and simply squeegee them out.

    Stephen – I use this for small panes but 1.2m x 2m is a big sheet to try and flip. Also not explained if pre-cut or trimmed after squeegee?

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    2 August 2011 at 16:41

    Adam I know you said inside, just wondered if they are within the building and not exposed to exterior light?

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    3 August 2011 at 08:55

    Don’t forget to check what grade of glass it is, as with a black flood it could crack the glass.

    Peter

  • Adam Zeit

    Member
    3 August 2011 at 14:38

    Stuart, thanks a lot for the great info, I will try to do it, the way your wrote.
    Thank you very much!

    Peter, the window has internal tint already applied, and the outside is digitally printed vinyl, black with ornaments, so I guess It won’t matter.

    Tim, the application is inside, however the windows are on the outside of the building it is a storage room and restrooms for a big restaurant. The windows are exposed to light, however they already have external digitally printed vinyl and internal very old tint, that I don’t want to remove (a job that takes time and nobody pays for)

    Thanks everyone for their answers, I’ll take a picture when it’s complete.

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