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    Posted by Phil Green on 4 November 2010 at 13:55

    Hi all,
    Any advice on laminating. I print on our VP540 and laminate on GMP cold laminator.

    When we print long prints it is so hit and miss whether the print will crinkle as its going through. We have tried everything, come off flat table, print wound onto tube then fed into laminator sometimes work sometimes not

    Any thoughts!!!

    Cheers
    Phil

    Martin Cole replied 14 years, 12 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    4 November 2010 at 14:01

    my experience with this is the way the print is kept between printing and laminating.
    must be 100% damp free and big roll not tightly rolled.
    also total ink limit can play a part

  • Mo Gillis-Coates

    Member
    4 November 2010 at 16:56

    Had a bit of a wrestle with my cold laminator at first same things, a couple of things I found,

    Don’t over pressure the rollers, tight isn’t always best,

    Keep the rollers clean, I do this on a weekly basis,

    Finally, always make sure the roller pressure is even and keep the print right in the middle of the rollers with a good tension in the laminate

    Doesn’t always work, especially if some numpty distracts me when I’m doing it lol

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    4 November 2010 at 17:51

    careful about tension on the laminate, too much and you may find the applied print trying to lift itself off as the laminate shrinks back, I dont know your laminator but positive pressure is usually undesirable, just the weight of the rollers should suffice.

    also print and laminate should be aclimatised in the same room, and it does need to be warm.

    Peter

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    6 November 2010 at 09:31

    Use a leader board. Insert this first then put your print under the leader board jammed up against the bottom roller. I found this technique ensures that the sheet enter ting the laminator is always flat and won’t crinkle your media entertaing your laminator.

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    6 November 2010 at 15:13

    Try running the print through then back again (without laminate) to check for tracking. If the edge moves across the roller doing this then it will wrinkle when applying the laminate.

  • Phil Green

    Member
    7 November 2010 at 14:40

    Thanks guys, thanks for all your posts on this, for some reason this has just started to happen. The width of the material is 1370 wide I am feeding through wonder if this has anything to do with it

    Going to the thought of Jason’s if I attach a leader board underneath the material wouldnt it leave a line once laminated??

    Peter Dee: I have tried that it doesnt tend to track over to one side but it still starts to crinkle up on the ends

    Cheers Phil

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    9 November 2010 at 19:48
    quote Phil Green:

    Hi all,
    When we print long prints it is so hit and miss whether the print will crinkle as its going through. We have tried everything, come off flat table, print wound onto tube then fed into laminator sometimes work sometimes not

    I have this problem too!
    Iv’e just wasted near on 4mtrs of print. All fine and dandy one minute then for no reason I can see, it gets half way through and print starts to crinkle up and gets ruined

    My laminator nearly went through the window today 👿

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    9 November 2010 at 20:03

    I just done 30m today,

    the reason why the print starts to crinkle is it is not running square, it needs to be "free" to move a little, if one side has a bit more tension coming of the roll. that is when it crinkles.
    hard to explain but it is all about alignment. the print entering the rollers should have no tension at all.

    Peter

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    9 November 2010 at 20:13
    quote Peter Normington:

    I just done 30m today,

    the reason why the print starts to crinkle is it is not running square, it needs to be “free” to move a little, if one side has a bit more tension coming of the roll. that is when it crinkles.
    hard to explain but it is all about alignment. the print entering the rollers should have no tension at all.

    Peter

    Yep that all makes sense Pete, I’ll give you a call tomorrow to discuss.

    Thanks

    Martin

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