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Printed window vinyl
Posted by A Misselbrook on 5 July 2010 at 17:38Hi there,
Does anyone know the best way to do a window which has white lettering and a solid red block behind it?Would the best way be to print the whole thing? As laying a big block of vinyl over lettering would just end in loads of bubbles?
Thanks
A Misselbrook replied 15 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 22 Replies -
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How big is the window?
Best way is your bubble version. White vinyl lettering and red vinyl backing.
If you can’t do it dry which is the way to go, use just a spray of clean water, just to give you that little bit of lea way.
You will get a slight ghosting where the backing vinyl goes over the lettering, but I like the effect it gives.If printed it would have to go on the outside 😕 but an option if they don’t mind this
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You could print onto clear vinyl, apply to inside of window then apply white vinyl to the rear. This would avoid the ghosting around cut lettering.
We print white ink on our Mimaki machines, so we would print white rather than a double application.
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We would print too but maybe put the lettering one side and the red block on the other side of the glass…
Matt
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quote Matty Goodwin:We would print too but maybe put the lettering one side and the red block on the other side of the glass…
Matt
why print?
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cut vinyl would be fine, for 2 colours, why are bubbles an issue ?
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Yes, you dont have to print, but it seems that A Misslebrook doesnt feel comfortable applying vinyl over the back of cut lettering because they feel they will get bubbles for whatever reason. Yes, it is possible and we know we could do it, but printing is an alternative using the methods suggested.
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not a good alternative though. still needs 2 layers of vinyl, so like i said if you cant apply without bubbles why print for just 2 colours?
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Peter…
Any window graphics we do are printed as we have to facilities to do that. Why fit twice with layers when one print can be applied. Certainly looks more professional to.
Usual happy self I see!!!!
Matt 😀 😀
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quote Michael Calcott:You could print onto clear vinyl, apply to inside of window then apply white vinyl to the rear. This would avoid the ghosting around cut lettering.
We print white ink on our Mimaki machines, so we would print white rather than a double application.
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I dont think the white print alternative is a suitable option, as you cant do it as a separate layer that is as a block out?
Peter
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Fair point that if you get bubbles ones way, you will get it the other.
A Misslebrook, what is your method of application?
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quote Peter Normington:quote Michael Calcott:You could print onto clear vinyl, apply to inside of window then apply white vinyl to the rear. This would avoid the ghosting around cut lettering.
We print white ink on our Mimaki machines, so we would print white rather than a double application.
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I dont think the white print alternative is a suitable option, as you cant do it as a separate layer that is as a block out?
Peter
We dont know if it has to be block out though. Our white ink stops visions through the glass.
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Matty, what method do you use to print window graphics that can be applied on the inside? with a blockout?
no problem if applying outside, but I assumed that the poster "Misselbrook" was applying on the inside.white lettering with a red background?
Peter
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I’m with Peter, vinyl is the way to go, I can’t see the point of wasting ink.
Although we still don’t know the size of the window
Worst scenario is put lettering on the front and block with red vinyl inside. (as Matty suggested but without printing)
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I think we are all assuming its on the inside and block out is required. Maybe we will find out more soon and answer the question, not guess the question/answer! :lol1:
Matt
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Matty
it doesnt matter if its outside or inside, it’s red and white, text, with a background,
so whichever way, vinyl is a cheaper and quicker option, and will probably look more professional than print, just my opinion.Peter
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Trying to upload a picture of a job we completed.
This is colour print backed in white ink which you cannot see though.
Yes, cut vinyl cheaper and on such a simple job, probably the best thing to do on this one. Wonder if we will find out anymore info….
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I agree with the cheaper/quicker quote but blue chip clients tend too shy away from ‘cheap and quick’, hence the printing element.
As far as looking more professional goes totally disagree!! If it did surely no-one would be printing window graphics?
Matt
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quote Matty Goodwin:I agree with the cheaper/quicker quote but blue chip clients tend too shy away from ‘cheap and quick’, hence the printing element.
As far as looking more professional goes totally disagree!! If it did surely no-one would be printing window graphics?
Matt
Matty
for simple text, vinyl wins hands down, its cheaper and quicker to produce.we are talking simple text here, not complex graphics,
and probably not for a blue chip company
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quote Matty Goodwin:We are all guessing again……
Matt 😳
well no, the original question was quite clear, white text, with a red square behind it.
so vinyl would be the obvious choice, the only other way, would be to reverse print on clear, and block out with white, assuming inside application.
The best suggestion to avoid bubbles would be to apply the text on the outside and the square on the inside, either way its not a solution, the answer would be how to apply vinyl without bubbles, 😀
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For simple text in one colour backed with one colour solid panel, I would do it in cut vinyl and applied in two layers. "fitted dry" using a felt squeegee. both layers having application tape. less hassle, much faster turnaround and cheaper too produce.
multiple lines of decorative scrolling text, photos and alignment of graphics on multiple windows is a different thing entirely. if this were the case then yes ide print it. we do not run a white ink machine anymore so this would be done by printing onto clear digital and laminated in white, then applied.
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Hi everyone.
I have been away for a few days. Blimey lots of responses to the question! Thanks!
My main area is hand lettered signs. I was asked to quote for the window and just wondered about printed vinyl as an option,
When I said bubbles, I was referring to the ghosting around the lettering when 2 layers are applied over each other.
The size is 29cm high by 211cm
Thanks for the help
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