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Altering the head pass number in Versaworks
I’ve got my Cadet plus (sp-540v) running on Versaworks now and hope to change the inks over to ecosolmax soon,
My problem is that even though the head check print is pretty good I’m getting banding.
On my SP300 using wasatch I get over this by just using 32 pass in the 720 dpi mode.I know I can select cmyk w pass in versaworks but the only settings that use 32 pass are the 1440 dpi and the 1080 dpi which are very slow at printing, if I could select 32 pass in 720 dpi like in wasatch then it should cure my problem.
So does any one know how to do this?Thanks
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Steve
i think the only way to do it in VW is to edit a profile & rename it. However a few points that may help, have you tried slowing head spead this will cure banding in some cases. If i have this issue i will slow from 1000 to 800 scan speed. Also does the profile you are using have any print calibration set up on it. If it does check your print calibration on the printer is correct then tell VW to use printer settings. You can also edit the curves select all colours and bring down from 100% in to 99% out etc.What vinyl are you using, have you tried different profiles from Rolands site
Kev
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Hi Kevin
Very strange, I’ve already replied to this and now it’s not here.
I’ve tried altering a profile, you can copy an existing one and modify it, but I still couldn’t get at the head pass setting.
I’ve come to the conclusion that the max inks are more opaque and so the profile isn’t putting enough of the Colorific elete ink onto the vinyl so I’m getting crap results.
My Cadet has a worse head test print but I can get good results when needed because in Wasatch you can alter the head pass count, I still get banding but as it’s so small you have to look closely.
Also the settings in Versaworks don’t seem to actually make the head pass more, certainly not like in Wasatch.I’m going to do all the head alignment tests and adjustments before carrying on.
After that I’m going to use a max profile in wasatch on my cadet to see if the results are similar to the cadet plus.
As I said I want to change this over to the max inks but I may need to get the versacamm module for Wasatch and it’s over £600!Regards
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Steve
you may have tried this:
Use artistic setting on Generic Profile 1, (32 pass default)
Check default head speed box & adjust to 1000What profiles have you tried
Kev
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Thanks Kevin, I’ll give that a try.
I’ve just tried the standard profiles that come with Versaworks for now.
I’ve set up the bi-directional printing and the feed setting, just got to wait for a large print on my old HP3000 to finish before I can mess with the 540, it’s been going 5 hours now and just over half way through 🙂
Also reset the bi-directional on my SP-300 and that’s better now as well, really annoying as it’s head test print is worse than the 540’s.
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why do you need 32 passes? eight should be ample to print without banding,
4 on banner, and even on day to day labels at 720 dpifive hours for a print? how big is that?
Peter
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Peter
he is using solvent Colourific inks with Ecomax profiles plus not so perfect heads. Hence the banding which he can normally cure by upping the pass rateKev
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I thought banding was usually caused by incorrect feed calibration settings or the wrong ink limits (wrong profile for the media).
Won’t Artistic quality just cause your banding to be a lot closer together?
Unless the extra passes is putting down more ink that’s needed. Then its not a banding issue its an ink limit issue.
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You may be right Jason, I got over the banding which is very faint on my Cadet (SP-300) by using 32 pass in Wasatch, this basicly made the banding closer.
I reset the Bi-directional printing on both yesterday and tried the Cadet and it was much better with no banding showing so I can most likely use the normal pass amount in Wasatch on the Cadet (I’m selling this when I’m happy with the Cadet plus)My problem Peter is that if i use Versaworks I don’t have the profiles for the Ink so I need to buy a full set of Max inks and hope it all works out.
Or I buy the Versacamm Module for Wasatch at £660 and again hope that this sorts the problem.
Troop 4 (based on flexi) is not very good.What I plan to do though is move to Max inks anyway because of the smell and health issue with the elite/Activasol ink and get the module for Wasatch as i prefer how it works with the 4 rip que’s that can be set up so you don’t have to mess around between job types.
My main problem at the moment is too much work 😮 but I’ll not complain too much about that one 🙂
The big print is just a 3×4 pop up but it’s being printed on my old HP3000 and it’s slowwwwww, it finished at around 7pm so eventually 9 hours, now you know why I wanted a bigger Roland printer
Steve
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Ordered a full set of Max inks today and some cleaning cartridges to purge out the Uniform ink.
Having messed with the settings and tried different profiles and rip settings I’ve got it about as good as I would expect using the wrong profile, so just for other peoples reference, no you can’t use the Max profiles with uniform inks 🙂 I never really expected it to work but it was worth a try.
Thanks for the tips Kevin, I never found the artistic setting though, just the 3 generic vinyl and 1 banner profiles, is the artistic one generic 3? That only has one profile in it.
Steve
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Steve
i have a Soljet so maybe my profiles are different to yours, glad you have it sorted. Remember to flush the system with Uniform solvent cleaner before using the ecomax cleaner.Kev
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