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  • Interested in job lot of equipment

    Posted by Patrick Smyth on 2 December 2009 at 15:05

    Hi, I am interested in getting in to signwriting and I came across the following job lot of equipment for sale secondhand. Is it good value or not ? I know 13,000 euro ( about £ 11,700 ) is a lot of money but I gather Gerber is a good make and the person selling it has offered to spend a few hours showing me how to use it. Thanks in advance for any replies.

    "GERBER 24" PLOTTER

    with blades and spare parts.

    comes with lots of rolls of 24" vinyl

    GERBER EDGE FX- THERMAL PRINTER (latest model)

    comes with spare parts also

    lots of edge foil & caddies.

    GERBER Gsx 15" SPROCKET PLOTTER

    (for use with gerber edge)

    comes with lots of rolls of 15" vinyl.

    T-SHIRT HEAT PRESS

    comes with attachments for printing mugs & plates

    also some rolls of t-shirt heat transfer vinyl/flock for use with 24" plotter

    SIGN TOOLS

    scalpols, squegees, aluminium sign corner rounder guillotine worth €250

    SOME SHEETS OF CORRIBOARD & ALU

    SIGN BLANKS.

    COMPUTER TO RUN ALL MACHINES.

    ALL EQUIPMENT BOUGHT IN FEB 2008.

    As good as new, best equipment on the market.

    SELL ONLY AS LOT OR GERBER EDGE FX & GSX 15" SPROCKET PLOTTER ( €10,000)

    €13,000 o.n.o "

    John Childs replied 16 years ago 15 Members · 28 Replies
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  • Peter Dee

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 15:19

    Well I saw a Versacamm sold recently for £6000 complete with software, a Sony Vaio laptop, new 440ml inks and lots of vinyl etc.

    This being a 760mm print & cut would have been a far better proposition.
    Personally I think that the Gerbers have had their day, especially as digital printers such as the Versacamm are coming on to the used market more often.
    The width of the Gerber FX would be too small for most sign projects, more suited to small graphics and labels.

    Not a deal I would jump at personally.
    A good 610mm cutter new at say £1100 (Graphtec, Roland, Summa), Coreldraw or some sign software and some basic sign tools etc would get you going far better and a great deal cheaper IMHO.

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 15:20

    Too much imo.

    You may be better off getting a NEW PC, Software, Versacamm (or similar) & Heat Press. Unless you have a particular requirement for a themal machine?

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 15:33

    Does it come with some sort of sign software to run the Gerber machines?
    (Omega, Graphics Advantage etc)
    If it has an older sign software program, does it include the dongle?
    Those are the first questions I’d ask.
    Love….Jill

  • Patrick Smyth

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 15:38

    Thanks for your replies.

    The seller says it comes with the software ( graphix advantage: composer). He says this software is an extra €1000 when buying new, it comes with a dongle for the back of the computer to prevent copying.

    He says when he bought it new it cost €15,500 for:

    The gerber edge fx printer
    the 15" ngerber plotter with it

    The 24" gerber plotter
    and the software package that runs all of them.

    along with this he is selling :

    the heat press for t-shirts
    aluminium corner rounder worth €250
    rolls of vinyl both 24" and 15" sprocketed
    application tape
    heat gun, squegees, scalpols etc.

    corriboard
    some dibond (aluminium coated sheets for outdoor signs)

    contacts for suppliers of vinyl etc, t-shirts and a training day to outline the basics of using the equipment

    So with this he says I would be saving 4,500 approx. He says
    granted the guarantee has run out but the equipment is as good as new.

    I think the seller may be asking too much for it , although the advantage is that I get a days training. Its hard though to get good equipment at a reasonable price secondhand….but on balance I am thinking I may be better off just starting with a cheaper cutter. I have read a lot on this excellent website and at least I know not to go for a cheap chinese cutter on ebay.

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 19:40

    Patrick, it is too much money! how can you be saving 4,500??

    Buy some new equipment with some proper training not a couple of hours.

    If you are prepared to pay that much for something 2nd hand you have no worries.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 19:50

    I am totally with Brian on this,
    an edge is only good if you have a certain type of work.
    and totting up the job lot I would not go more than 5k for the lot
    it is second hand and for around 12K you could buy a 1600mm versaart printer,

    Peter

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 19:51

    And if he bought the software at the same time as the FX he would have bought the Omega software. It changed from Advantage to Omega in 2000.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 19:52

    I bought Graphix Advantage 6.2 in 1998 for $900, as far as I know it won’t run on anything newer than Win98SE.
    It’s pretty much obsolete I think.
    I think you could invest in new equipment for cheaper.
    Corel X3 (not the newest) is around $50 and I just bought a 24" Graphtec plotter for about $1800.
    Not sure about the other stuff.

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 20:42

    [quote="Patrick Smyth"]Thanks for your replies.

    The seller says it comes with the software ( graphix advantage: composer). He says this software is an extra €1000 when buying new, it comes with a dongle for the back of the computer to prevent copying.

    He says when he bought it new it cost €15,500 for:

    The gerber edge fx printer
    the 15" ngerber plotter with it 2000.00

    The 24" gerber plotter
    and the software package that runs all of them. 400.00

    along with this he is selling :

    the heat press for t-shirts
    aluminium corner rounder worth €250
    rolls of vinyl both 24" and 15" sprocketed
    application tape
    heat gun, squegees, scalpols etc. 250

    corriboard
    some dibond (aluminium coated sheets for outdoor signs) 250 depending on quanity

    contacts for suppliers of vinyl etc, t-shirts

    FREE UKSB TOOLBAR

    and a training day to outline the basics of using the equipment

    If he says a day will learn all you need to know, it’s no wonder he’s selling!!!

    So with this he says I would be saving 4,500 approx. He says
    granted the guarantee has run out but the equipment is as good as new.

    I think the seller may be asking too much for it , although the advantage is that I get a days training.

    Total value 3-3.5K EURO Max, if you need training i’ll come down and give you a day for 10K

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  • Craig Newton

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 21:02

    i picked up my grenadier 54 inch print and cut for 8k, 1k would get you a rude computer few hundred quid on design and rip software and as ian says uksb toolbar has all suppliers youll need, in your shoes id swerve the edge for that sort of money he’s dreaming!!!

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 21:36

    I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested 😀

    Peter

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 22:01
    quote Peter Normington:

    I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested 😀

    Peter

    but would there be biccies? 😀

  • Neil Speirs

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 23:06
    quote Harry Cleary:

    quote Peter Normington:

    I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested 😀

    Peter

    but would there be biccies? 😀

    No, just jaffa cakes 😉

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    2 December 2009 at 23:21
    quote Neil Speirs:

    quote Harry Cleary:

    quote Peter Normington:

    I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested 😀

    Peter

    but would there be biccies? 😀

    No, just jaffa cakes 😉

    No, No, Jammie Dodgers 😉 which as it happens are made in a factory barely a mile from me. Wagon Wheels too 😀

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 10:30

    I’m sure Spandex were selling their Gerber FX + Omega + Plotter for around £7000 recently.

  • John Childs

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 18:30
    quote Neil Davey:

    Wagon Wheels too 😀

    Sorry for the hijack – but this is important. 😀

    Neil, Wagon Wheels are nigh on impossible to source around here. If Morrison’s have run out, and they usually have, then there are none to be had.

    Any chance of popping in to the factory and getting me a catering pack? 😀

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 21:12

    Party in John Childs!!!! 😀 😀 (haven’t had a Wagon Wheel in ages 🙁 )

  • John Childs

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 21:56
    quote Harry Cleary:

    (haven’t had a Wagon Wheel in ages 🙁 )

    Neither have we. 🙁

    But if I can get some, then you are all welcome to share.

    not too many though!

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 22:02

    you have to grin to get them in 😀

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 22:24

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 22:54
    quote Harry Cleary:

    Party in John Childs!!!! 😀 😀 (haven’t had a Wagon Wheel in ages 🙁 )

    I have one just about everyday with my 3pm cuppa.

    Loads in Tesco’s (?)

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 22:59

    Posh git! 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    3 December 2009 at 23:49

    I always hated wagon wheels
    sickly sweet crappy taste.
    The original ones were made by Burtons biscuits, blackpool and slough, if memory serves me.

    one of those childhood things that were, or are not the same as they used to be,

    they were much bigger though when i was a lad, at least a foot across!

    Peter

  • John Childs

    Member
    4 December 2009 at 00:28
    quote Peter Normington:

    The original ones were made by Burtons biscuits, blackpool and slough, if memory serves me.

    one of those childhood things that were, or are not the same as they used to be,

    they were much bigger though when i was a lad, at least a foot across!

    Correct on every count. They used to come in unsealed envelopes as well. H&S would have a fit about that today.

    Still like ’em though. 😀

  • John Singh

    Member
    4 December 2009 at 16:33
    quote Neil Davey:

    quote Neil Speirs:

    quote Harry Cleary:

    quote Peter Normington:

    I would sell you my mimaki jv3 1320sp2 and complete with wasach rip, training in print and application, and media for only 10k if you are interested 😀

    Peter

    but would there be biccies? 😀

    No, just jaffa cakes 😉

    No, No, Jammie Dodgers 😉 which as it happens are made in a factory barely a mile from me. Wagon Wheels too 😀

    That’s jammie! just a mile down the road
    better get on ya wheels and buy up before the next crunch

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    4 December 2009 at 17:22
    quote John Childs:

    quote Neil Davey:

    Wagon Wheels too 😀

    Sorry for the hijack – but this is important. 😀

    Neil, Wagon Wheels are nigh on impossible to source around here. If Morrison’s have run out, and they usually have, then there are none to be had.

    Any chance of popping in to the factory and getting me a catering pack? 😀

    I’ll see what I can do John (:) get them their wagons in a circle boys (:)

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    4 December 2009 at 17:27
    quote John Singh:

    That’s jammie! just a mile down the road
    better get on ya wheels and buy up before the next crunch

    Worst thing is or best I’m not sure, when I drive home past the factory the smell is fantastic.
    All those biscuits being baked/cooked makes me old tummy rumble (puppy-eyes)

  • John Childs

    Member
    4 December 2009 at 18:23
    quote Neil Davey:

    I’ll see what I can do John

    Great.

    If you can do anything, just drop me a PM with how much I owe.

    😀

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