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can anyone help with sublimating t-shirt problem please?
Posted by Paul S Martin on 2 March 2009 at 08:12Hi all
I just got my new Xpres Heat Press. and would like to know what the best setting would be for T.Shirts, at this point I have it set to 200C for 25sec Med Pressure but finding that the image goes to the back of the shirt also if you see what I mean, do I need to put a lining inside the T-Shirt also to stop this when pressing.
Thanks for your help
All the best
Paul 🙂Paul S Martin replied 16 years, 7 months ago 11 Members · 33 Replies -
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We always place one of those silicone pads between the layers not just to stop it going through but also to get an even pressure especially where ribbed collars etc might hold the plate off – if you get what I mean 🙂
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Hi John
Do I take it then that not all shirts will do this then, but to be safe always use the second sheet inside, I was not sure if my settings were out
Paul 🙂
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Remember the sublimation process works on the transfer of a gas that carries the dye to the article. With cloth, if the weave is open or the material is thin then there will be a degree of "pass through" as said before use a silicon pad or slip in some baking/grease proof paper inside.
Always good to use to protect the heat press.
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We do adults and kids T Shirts at 195 for 55 seconds. Baby grows the same temp for 45 seconds.
I must admit I don’t bother putting anything between the garment. I’ve never experienced pass through with clothing. All I use is some silicon baking paper over the top of the print to protect the heat platten. Thing I found with teflon sheets is that once an image is ghosted onto them it carries the risk of transferring onto a subsequent item being pressed. Silicon baking paper by the 50m roll from the local wholesaler is about £10 and lasts a long time.
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We’ve just got into the habit of always using these silicone pads (about 5mm thick) as when pressing shirts with raised areas – collars, cuffs, seams etc, we occasionally noticed uneven pressure was applied to the transfer. Using the pads seemed to compensate.
We bought our pads from Subli-Nation who are of course no more!
John
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25 seconds isnt enough Paul. We do 190c for 50 seconds on T Shirts and 40 seconds on Mousemats.
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Also worth bearing in mind Paul is that if you ever do Hi Viz vests on the press make sure you cover both faces of the press as the bright yellow from the vest stays on the press and makes a mess of white Teeshirts (I found out the hard way).
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Thanks Lads
Loads to learn 😀 and bugger up 🙁 , I will take on board and see how I go, Paul do you give the Hi-Viz vest the same temp and time and if so at what pressure do you feel is best on that item.
I have been using the Fruit of loom heavy range T-Shirts, do you think I should change.
Thanks Again
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Paul,
I tend to stick to Gildan T Shirts as they get a better response from my customers and feel a better quality T Shirt.
I do Hi Viz at exactly the same temp and pressure as T Shirts and get good results every time with no bleed in the image at all.
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id speak to xpres, they are always more than happy to offer advice. very good company.
graeme
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we do our shirts at 200 for 30sec medium pressure
expres shirts/xpres press/xpres settings
never had a problem
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Stuart Thanks for the info can you tell me who’s shirts xpres use, I did not think to order any from them as i got some from Ralawise.com and did not think I would have a problem, also what transfer paper do you use. Xxxxx
I did order the WoW 7.1 system but have not used it as yet but it dose looks good, have you used it ??
all the best & thanks
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quote Paul S Martin:Stuart Thanks for the info can you tell me who’s shirts xpres use, I did not think to order any from them as i got some from Ralawise.com and did not think I would have a problem, also what transfer paper do you use. Xxxxx
I did order the WoW 7.1 system but have not used it as yet but it dose looks good, have you used it ??
all the best & thanks
PaulI’m a bit lost here are you having problems with pressing transfers on to cotton t-shirts or sublimating onto polyester t-shirts?
I watched the demo yet again today of how to use the wow 7.1 paper and yes it does look good on the finished garments but what a lot of faffing about to create it and also the cost….£2.50+ per a4 sheet. Mmmmmm 😕
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Hi Neil
The problem is with sublimating onto polyester t-shirts, sorry mate just ment to say I got the wow 7.1 system as well to see what it was like, I know it’s a lot of faffing about and the cost is high but all said it dose look very good, well the demo dose 😀 my bugs are with sublimating onto polyester t-shirts like I said with the image going to the back of the shirt, was not sure if it was me pressing for the wrong amount of time or temp not correct.
Thanks Paul
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I use xpres sublimation shirts, and press at 190 for 50 seconds, I use no paper in between as they are only polyester on the outside, they are cotton inners so no pass through, same as sublisoft.
hi viz vests if only pressing one side I just cover the bottom of the press and when finished wipe the platen, being teflon nothing sticks to it, if unsure just press an offcut of polyester till no ink appears. -
Same here as Steve, xpres shirts, near enough same time & temp & never had any bleed through. I would def recommend you order some xpres shirts, u wont be disappointed 🙂
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Thanks You Guy’s, A new order for Xpres it is then LOL.
All the best
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paul
what was the mixture of the shirts you had from ralawise
poly/ cotton
you need something like 65 poly 35 cotton for the right results
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Paul Martin said:
Loads to learn and bugger upPaul, if it will help, I can let you have some polyester fabric to practice with- rather than spoiling garments? 🙂 🙂 🙂
Barbara
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Hi Barbara
Thats very nice of you Thanks, were abouts are you based ?
All the best Paul 😀
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Hi Paul
I’m in Robin Hood country 😀
If you pm me your address (is that possible-as I’m not a member now?) I’ll put some in the post for you.1 mtr x i.5 should keep you going for a bit, don’t you think :lol1:
Barbara
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65/35 doesnt work, it does to a degree but is really pale and faded, 100% polyester is the way to go and they hav especial shirts for the job, none of the major clothing suppliers make any polyester T shirts I had tried to find them ages back.
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quote Barbara Eden:Hi Paul
I’m in Robin Hood country 😀
If you pm me your address (is that possible-as I’m not a member now?) I’ll put some in the post for you.1 mtr x i.5 should keep you going for a bit, don’t you think :lol1:
Barbara
Thanks Barbara
Paul 😀
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quote Steve Underhill:65/35 doesnt work, it does to a degree but is really pale and faded, 100% polyester is the way to go and they hav especial shirts for the job, none of the major clothing suppliers make any polyester T shirts I had tried to find them ages back.
Steve
Are these shirts Poly outside and cotton inside type shirts ??? from Xpres or 100% Poly
Paul
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Steve’s right-no one likes 1oo% poly because of the feel, lack of breathability etc, but you can get a poly mesh, as in the hi-vis bibs etc- this looks rather like the old *Airtex* fabric that was.
Geez, showing my age now 😳 😳Paul, thanks for your mail, I’ll see to it tomorrow 🙂 🙂
Barbara
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Paul,
if you have a local haberdashery (showing my age) you can get all types of poly from matt to satin etc for pennies a metre. They are a good way to test and also can be used to make pillow cases etc for peanuts and sell on with personalised printing. We do a fair trade in these and the costs are far lower than buying in the products ready made.
We use the same as Steve for shirts and have had no bleed through what so ever. Defo paper on the platen for hi vis though. We get our greaseproof paper fron Tesco it is cheap and works a treat.Peter
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[/quote] Barbara 21 is not Old
You’re right there Paul, but it’s a loooooong time since I was that age *rofl*
Barbara[/quote]
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quote Peter Mindham:Paul,
if you have a local haberdashery (showing my age) you can get all types of poly from matt to satin etc for pennies a metre. They are a good way to test and also can be used to make pillow cases etc for peanuts and sell on with personalised printing. We do a fair trade in these and the costs are far lower than buying in the products ready made.
We use the same as Steve for shirts and have had no bleed through what so ever. Defo paper on the platen for hi vis though. We get our greaseproof paper fron Tesco it is cheap and works a treat.Peter
Thanks Peter
Keep that in mind M8, is standard greaseproof paper the same as what Xpres sell then ?
Thanks Paul
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quote Barbara Eden:
Barbara 21 is not Old
You’re right there Paul, but it’s a loooooong time since I was that age *rofl*
Barbara[/quote][/quote]
LOL 😛
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quote Peter Mindham:Paul,
if you have a local haberdashery (showing my age) you can get all types of poly from matt to satin etc for pennies a metre. They are a good way to test and also can be used to make pillow cases etc for peanuts and sell on with personalised printing. We do a fair trade in these and the costs are far lower than buying in the products ready made.
We use the same as Steve for shirts and have had no bleed through what so ever. Defo paper on the platen for hi vis though. We get our greaseproof paper fron Tesco it is cheap and works a treat.Peter
What’s a hadrehsbarey 😉
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