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    Posted by Kimberley Edwards on 28 January 2009 at 18:31

    What am I doing wrong? When I put down vinyl on just about any surface, I clean the surface with alcohol then go over it with a static cloth for the dust, I squeegee it down good (I think) and still I get too many bubbles. I stick them with a pin and such, but I would like to eliminate the problem.
    I’ve had the problem more than I would like with both wet and dry applications. I have a job coming up where I’m applying vinyl indoors on a painted wall, so I have to use a dry application, if anyone has any insight on getting the smoothest possible application on that surface, I’d be happy to receive your wisdom. Thanks.

    BrianBrian replied 16 years, 9 months ago 10 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 18:48

    Kimberley, I sometimes have this problem, especially when applying to fomex and di-bond, some one said it was to to with static ?? personally I think it is because I don’t apply enough pressure 🙄

    Lynn

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 19:17

    You could try using (Oracle) "Rapid Air" or "easy apply" vinyl. These types of vinyls have an embossed glue surface with channels that allow the air to escape. I’ve never used it before but ordered some today to experiment with. Apparently it’s good for wrapping as long as you aren’t having to stretch the vinyl

  • Paul Humble

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 19:18

    Without wanting to sound patronising it really is just a case of practice makes perfect.

    Ive only been at it since April but last month was shown a different squeegie technique which I gave a go and as if by magic the bubbles seem to be banished.

    I still get the odd one, but today I fitted a 4 meter reclaimed banner without a single issue, a job I would have dreaded a few month ago.

    Try different hinging methods when fitting, that was what I was doing wrong. I now use a mixture of top, centre and side hinges where in the past I always used top hinges and this was causing me to hack at the vinyl rather than having a nice smooth motion.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 19:32

    practice does make perfect, but you need to have the basics to start with.

    lots off variables including the type of squeedgy you are using.
    Felt is a good forgiver for some people and for general application,

    the angle you hold the squidge is also important, and having consistancy in the strokes you use,
    Use a <45/45 angle to on the stroke and hold, if that make sense

    Peter

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 19:34
    quote Peter Normington:

    practice does make perfect, but you need to have the basics to start with.

    lots off variables including the type of squeedgy you are using.
    Felt is a good forgiver for some people and for general application,

    the angle you hold the squidge is also important, and having consistancy in the strokes you use,
    Use a <45/45 angle to on the stroke and hold, if that make sense

    Peter

    Have you tried teaching that to Lynn Peter 😕

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 20:08
    quote Phill:

    quote Peter Normington:

    practice does make perfect, but you need to have the basics to start with.

    lots off variables including the type of squeedgy you are using.
    Felt is a good forgiver for some people and for general application,

    the angle you hold the squidge is also important, and having consistancy in the strokes you use,
    Use a <45/45 angle to on the stroke and hold, if that make sense

    Peter

    Have you tried teaching that to Lynn Peter 😕

    Lynn has always been aware that
    consistency in stroke and angle, gets good results.

    Peter 😀

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 20:11
    quote Peter Normington:

    quote Phill:

    quote Peter Normington:

    practice does make perfect, but you need to have the basics to start with.

    lots off variables including the type of squeedgy you are using.
    Felt is a good forgiver for some people and for general application,

    the angle you hold the squidge is also important, and having consistancy in the strokes you use,
    Use a <45/45 angle to on the stroke and hold, if that make sense

    Peter

    Have you tried teaching that to Lynn Peter 😕

    Lynn has always been aware that
    consistency in stroke and angle, gets good results.

    Peter 😀

    :rofl:

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 20:24
    quote Paul Humble:

    Without wanting to sound patronising it really is just a case of practice makes perfect.

    Ive only been at it since April but last month was shown a different squeegie technique which I gave a go and as if by magic the bubbles seem to be banished.

    This was the same for me, I used to get a few bubbles (especially when flood coating) until I went on a wrap course and got taught how to squeegee properly, since then I hardly ever get even 1 bubble and can now even flood coat panels using Oracle 751c which I gave up using because I couldn’t get on with it at all. I also do frosting dry and don’t get any bubbles, technique, technique, technique and practice does make perfect.

    Cheers

    Warren

  • Kimberley Edwards

    Member
    28 January 2009 at 21:25

    Thanks everybody – good points here, and of course I can always use more practice. I do paint more than vinyl, but I want to do it all well.

  • James Martin

    Member
    29 January 2009 at 00:02

    I reduce my bubbles when i slow my squeegee down bit.

    Before I would go fast, ‘before any could get in’

    but I think now that air is more viscous than you think and you have to go with the flow a bit and not force.

    (not that I’ve mastered it yet by any stretch)

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    29 January 2009 at 01:22

    Only ever get bubble when I dont have a totally clean edge on my squeegee, either through laziness or forgetfulness lol.

  • BrianBrian

    Member
    27 February 2009 at 09:11

    try using more pressure and a new squeegee, that works pretty well.

    http://www.ft-graphix.co.uk

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