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can anyone help with applying glass etch onto windows?
Hey guys, im about to put some frosting onto a window in a posh cafe. they have asked for the logo to be in colour(vinyl Cut) underneath the frosting. would you then flood the back of it with frosting?? Or cut the shape of the logo out of the frosting and then drop the vinyl cut in?? what would you reccomend, thanks in advance 🙂
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i’d cut the logo out and then insert the vinyl.
cheers.
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Ben If you apply the vinyl first and then the frost on top you will get a disturbing outline around the text which will mess up the hole effect that you are trying to achieve with the frosted vinyl. So you can either do as Hugh wrote or you could cover the window with the vinyl form inside and then apply the lettering on the outside. That way you will achieve a nice shadow effect on the lettering.That’s at least how I would go about it. I accuatlly did a job like that the other day, if you want I can post some picture for you (will take me some day thoe).
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If you apply the frost first, then place the vinyl on top, you get a slight soft focus effect. Its worth getting some glass or perspex and try (and keep as samples) some of the differing layering ideas.
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There you go Ben, 4 different methods with 4 slightly different results.
Both personal preference and what the client wishes to achieve should be discussed.Personally I don’t like the vinyl on the outside as I think it looks cheap. However the main advantage of this is that it can be replaced or changed without removing the etch in the future.
I don’t mind the edge surrounding the vinyl when placed underneath the etch that Simon describes as disturbing, and it can be incorporated into the design. In fact recently when I explained this effect to a customer they positively asked for this as a feature. I have posted a picture of this here
when a similar question was asked.
http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=36171Cutting out the etch can also be made more of a feature by allowing an enlarged cut out. This method can be more complicated depending on design
Placing the vinyl behind the etch works well with dark bold vinyls but as Graeme says it gives a soft focus effect.
All will work
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slightly off topic, but i thought id put it on the end of this post. I have some etch to fit. solid flood. I fit lots of etch bubble free and fine, with cut outs and without, but i am finding myself wondering if im gonna mess this next job up. Its a 90cm high by 3m piece of etch, and im thinking do i just fit it dry, or shall i give it a go wet, what will be easier and best result. I have never even tried fitting anything wet before. I have been taught and taught myself dry. So i feel like im going backwards by fitting wet.
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If it’s just a solid piece then I think wet will be fine. Or get some Bubble Free and do it dry.
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and how do i apply wet? lol
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bubble free etch?
who does that then?
Peter
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I think i would have to see the job in question before committing to a method. some methods just aren’t practical depending on the size of the application.
lets say you have a LONG section of etch to apply in a difficult position. maybe at the top of a window with limited working space. the panel has a long line of text in the middle.
if this was cut from the panel before application and then a coloured text inserted, you would have to make sure the panel was running 100% over the length or the inserted text applied after will draw attention to the panel running off. by this i just mean it running off by millimetres… (hope that made sense?) 😕in this circumstance it maybe much safer for you to apply the text to the glass and then apply the panel over it.
however, doing it wet will cause problems i simply do not have the patients for, so ide op for a dry app every time. (but thats just me) wet app would see trapped water around the letters applied first so increasing the labour and drying time significantly.
if i "had to" do it wet, i would probably apply the etch wet with the text already cut from the panel. so no chance of trapping water. applying it wet would mean little chance of it running off, (hopefully) once on then apply the coloured text.
as i said though, applying wet just takes so long and is damn messy in my opinion, but do what safest or which ever you are most confident with at the end of the day.some very old threads with some work i did… all done dry, but no coloured text as such.
http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … glass+etch
http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … glass+etch
this has colour in it, but halo of missing vinyl, if you see what i mean?
http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … glass+etch.
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Rob great work!
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quote Peter Normington:bubble free etch?who does that then?
Peter
Dorotape supply it.
Aslan EL300.
It’s dead easy to apply dry as the adhesive has channels for air escape. -
it`s amazing brilliant stuff 🙂 but we`re not allowed to mention suppliers are we ??? aslan easy apply is what your after
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