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  • Wrapping a car with Avery 900 series

    Posted by Simon Polakof on 21 August 2008 at 17:02

    Hi everyone!
    Today I started to do my first big wrap with the Avery 900 series(It’s called that way over here in Europe). The car was a Mercedes E 220 (COMBI). I decided that I wouldn’t use any application tape on it, thought it would be easier. I had so much troubles with it!!!!!
    First of I couldn’t use a whole sheet for the sides, as the wrapping film, I had to divide it in to smaller parts and the vinyl just didn’t follow the lines I tried to apply.Got lots of small bubbles!!
    Second of was the problem with the handles, I couldn’t figure out how to remove them so I had to do it the old fashion way. First try to apply a small patch between the plate and the handle itself and then cover it up with the remaining vinyl. It didn’t look good at all!!!!
    How do you all guys do your vinyl wrapping? Any tips and tricks could really help me out….
    Thnaks!

    Martin Pearson replied 17 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Warren Beard

    Member
    21 August 2008 at 17:10

    Hi Simon

    I wrapped this car with Avery 900 and it was OK for me, it wasn’t even in a heated room, it was in a garage but no heating. I did not get bubbles but did find it difficult just because it was hard to handle the thin material. It’s not the easiest material to use but is possible and it was my first wrap too 😕

    http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … light=wrap

    cheers

    Warren

  • Simon Polakof

    Member
    21 August 2008 at 17:20

    Warren it looks really nice!
    Did you go about it in segments or in one whole piece on the side panels?

  • John Childs

    Member
    21 August 2008 at 17:31

    Simon,

    We do a lot of part wraps with Avery 900. My boys prefer to do it without application tape because they reckon it’s easier. Also, any problems are easier to see with no tape and can be rectified before it’s too late.

    Maybe you just need a bit more practice?

  • Simon Polakof

    Member
    21 August 2008 at 17:54

    John I agree with you completely.
    So I’m looking to get some tips, specially the part that has to do with the side panels? Do your guys do a big panel or do they divide it in sections? Also do you remove all the protective paper (the carrying paper) right away or do they remove it as they go along with the section?

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    21 August 2008 at 18:10

    As this was only going to be on for La Mans he was not very concerned about joins etc, I joined at the bottom of the window arched and fitted front half and back half in 1 piece as seen here.

    As mentioned It was my first wrap and probably did lots of things wrong and the long way around 😳

    cheers

    Warren


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  • Warren Beard

    Member
    21 August 2008 at 18:15

    Not sure how available this is to you but I just used some Hexis Hex"Press" vinyl and have to say I was very impressed with it, it’s only been on a few days so will have to see if it will be OK long term and if I did it all well enough to stay on 🙄


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  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    22 August 2008 at 06:47

    Simon can you post a side view of the van?

  • Simon Polakof

    Member
    22 August 2008 at 16:10

    I’m afraid I don’t have any pictures to show you’ll. Me and the customer end up getting pissed of at each other and things got kind of loud. So I just did what I had to do and got out of there as quickly as I could.
    But as I mentioned it before, the trouble was weather I was to divide all in smaller sections and join the different pieces. I also had troubles with working with the vinyl, got so many smaller bubbles. Even though I preheated the vinyl before stretching it and forming it.
    So if you have any tips and tricks Jason, that have made your life easier I’m ALL EARS!

    Thanks

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    25 August 2008 at 08:42

    Hey Simon. On a van your sheet should stay relatively flat. You shouldn’t need alot of head to get the majority of the panel on.

    Never heat and stretch. You want to be able to heat to relax the vinyl and let it cool down before applying it.

    Bubbles mean your not getting all the air out when applying the vinyl. Let me post my squeegee technique in a diagram.

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    25 August 2008 at 08:58

    Hey Simon,

    Its called the 30/30 technique.

    Basically you hold the squeegee 30 degrees against the line your applying and 30 degrees off the body of the vehicle.

    Your application line can vary and can follow the curves on the car. This illustration is simulating a flat panel application.

    You will be guiding the vinyl outwards so you shouldn’t have creases nor bubbles if you use small overlapping strokes. You also give the air a chance to escape. Also work from the middle outwards so from the middle to the edge of the sheet. The the other way from the middle outwards again.


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  • Simon Polakof

    Member
    25 August 2008 at 09:55

    Thanks Jason!
    We also use that 30/30 technique, but I believe that we make far to big leaps with the squeegee between lines.
    But do you remove all the backing paper at once or do you leave bit of it and remove it as you go along? If you do leave it on while you go bit by bit, does it disturb the vinyl ability to mold to the body of the car (before applying the squeegee). thus giving you the unwanted "waves" in the vinyl.

    Ps. Hope that I managed to explain myself?!

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    25 August 2008 at 10:06

    Simon it depends on the application. But if were doing vertical panels on a van we leave the backing paper on and only expose say 6" at a time. We then push the vinyl against the folded over backing paper and against the vehicle. We can then ensure that the sheet is relaxed and straight before applying the vinyl.

    If your going over a van recess we don’t apply into the recess we apply all the ‘high’ areas first then use the heat gun and relax the vinyl to get it into the recess.

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    25 August 2008 at 18:55

    Simon, not sure what the availability is like where you are but I would look into getting yourself on a wrap course rather than trying to learn all the techniques yourself. From the posts I have read the people who have been on them in the UK found them to be very useful and if you start to do a lot of this sort of work it will pay for itself over and over again.

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