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can i have help please applying tinting / window vinyl
hi all,
went to look at a job yesterday and came away with a rough idea of what they wanted, now these are fairly big windows with a lot of sun, at least all morning, a lot of the design was black, with white text and a bit of colour, initially i assumed i’d get the reverse peinted onto clear and coated black behind, but i did express my concerns at the time, about so much black being used on a large window,
now, i called today, and they admit that the design isn’t their own (as i queried), but another local signmakers, now i’ve no problem with re-designing them something using their text, but will need it to be significantly different for the obvious reasons.
anyways, it turns out that the black is not black, but window tint, fair enough (i’ll sub it!) but all the texxt, in my opinion, will have to go on the outside, i can’t see it working if it’s stuck behind the tint, and when asked about tint over letters, i explained that tint is normally applied wet, so moisture would be trapped around the letters and it’d look pants.
am i right i suggesting this? i think i am, i see no problem with having the text on the outside, i did the previous tenants signage some years ago and promised i’d replace £foc if any was removed by yobs, it never was!
soo.. does anyone know of any tinters in the sussex area, and is this the best way to go, ie, tint inside and text out.
thanks.
HUgh
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8 Replies
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Not exactly the same but similar, I saw last week in London a shop window that was frosted on the inside and matt black vinyl on the outside, it looked really nice actually and might try it myself one day if I get an opportunity. You will always run the risk of having somebody pick at it but not much you can do about that. I would go for it and if you are willing to offer free replacement if vandalised I see no reason why they would object.
Cheers
Warren
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I’ve put vinyl lettering on plenty of vehicle windows that have been tinted and it looks great, wouldn’t even consider lettering the inside of a car window
Not exactly the same Hugh but the same in principle.
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now you know it was designed by someone else, did you find out there quote.
chris
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quote Chris Wool:now you know it was designed by someone else, did you find out there quote.chris
lol, no, didn’t think to ask! the customers usually tell porkies when you ask them anyways, knocking a few quid off like.
thanks Warren and James.
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Hi Hugh
I’m a window tinter and often do graphics in the tint. Coloured window film works best but I have used vinyl under tint to good effect, especially under frost film.
You are correct that a small amount of water will be trapped around the edge of the vinyl, but it need not neccessarily look pants. If a thin vinyl is used and a the film is squeegeed hard then most of the water is removed and it will look like a thin silver border, the water will dry out in time but the small border where the film lifts to cover the vinyl will still be there. IMO this can look quite good and can be used as a design feature.
As you say find a local tinter and ask if he has done this before, but I see no reason why not.
However if you put the graphics on the outside they can easily be changed without removing the tint.This is translucent vinyl under frost window film.
Stuart
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Now correct me if I’m wrong but window tint is made from acetate, not vinyl, and as such will not conform closely around lettering like vinyl backing does.
The etch shown above will work fine but not sure about proper tint stuff.
On small text isn’t it likely to remain unstuck around the whole text area? -
thank you Stuart, I have contacted a local place and they should be getting me a price tomorrow, the customer has accepted that the stickers can go outside, and i’ve offered them the same deal as a couple of others, ie, i’m that confident that stickers will not be removed, that i will replace and missing / damaged vinyl for free, only charging for time to get too and fro the job, the deal only includes replacing like for like, this and the charge for time, usually £25 for travellin up to 30mins each way, stops people wasting time!
anyways, thanks again.
Hugh -
Most tint is made from polyester and while some of the thicker safety films are thick and do not stretch the thin auto films, which would normally be used for giving a dark background to a window graphic, conform extremely well over an underlying layer. Film is actually a lot more versatile than many would think and I quite like it for graphics although it can be fiddlier and a bit more awkward to work with being less forgiving and having contamination isssues.
The frost in my picture is a film (not an etched vinyl) and is actually thicker and less pliable than most of the darker films, on covering the vinyl a thin outline is left around the underlying layer but on glass I find this occurrs equally as much with two layers of vinyl. Small text would be a problem but I would try and avoid this at the design stage.
I use both film or vinyl for graphics depending on the customer, the design or the situation. For flood coating large glass areas I much prefer film as that is what I started with and use more.Check out some of the film graphics on here
https://016b34b.netsolstores.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=51
Stuart
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