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Is it normal to laminate a roll-up banner?

Posted by Warren Beard on 26 May 2008 at 17:02

Hi All

Is it normal to laminate a roll-up banner? If preference what are the pro’s and cons and will any laminate do?

Cheers

Warren

Richard Urquhart replied 17 years, 6 months ago 10 Members · 19 Replies
19 Replies

Robert Lambie

Member
26 May 2008 at 17:20

i know many do laminate them, but we don’t. we have been making them for over 4 years now and never had one complaint… we charge £150+vat for our budget ones and that’s using the customers artwork or a relatively simple design by ourselves. i use easystands.com and hydrosol roll-up film from europoint. i know you can buy cheaper on the net, and i saw some great offers at signuk this year with the stands coming printed for under £40 but i keep away from customers trying to haggle us down. its £150 take it or leave it… if they want it laminated then ide be charging more…
Warren Beard

Member
26 May 2008 at 17:25

Thanks Rob, I think I should have mentioned I am printing with Pigment inks, not sure if it makes a huge difference but thought I would ask first. Obviously I prefer not to laminate if not required but if should be done then I will as I don’t want returns.

cheers

Warren
Chris Wool

Member
26 May 2008 at 20:11

kentmear do a pigmented one that you dont laminate unless you want to.
i cant stand seeing them with curled edges.
i saw one the other day that was done on banner material it looked c*ap

chris
Warren Beard

Member
26 May 2008 at 21:20

quote Chris Wool:

kentmear do a pigmented one that you dont laminate unless you want to.
i cant stand seeing them with curled edges.
i saw one the other day that was done on banner material it looked c*ap

chris

Hi Chris

Sorry I couldn’t quiet work out if that means I should laminate or not, I am using a lightstop material.

Cheers

Warren
Chris Wool

Member
26 May 2008 at 21:51

warren in days gone by they were all printed with dye inks and for that reason were mainly laminated.
today’s materials have changed pigmented inks are waterproof and light fast, so laminating not so much of a necessity.

stay flat materials don’t always stay flat when laminated unless its the thick stuff.

the vast majority of the ones i do only get used 2 to 6 times a year so don’t get laminated

chris
Steve Vallis

Member
27 May 2008 at 06:12

I use pigmented inks and laminate, I sell for £99.00 +vat
Warren Beard

Member
27 May 2008 at 08:57

but does it have to be laminated?
Jon Stephens

Member
27 May 2008 at 09:08

Rob … you sell for £150 plus vat ?
Robert Lambie

Member
27 May 2008 at 10:00

quote dynamicsjon:

Rob … you sell for £150 plus vat ?

yep, we dont laminate but we can do… we would charge extra though.
Steve Vallis

Member
27 May 2008 at 10:31

quote Warren Beard:

but does it have to be laminated?

Yes (If using non solvent ink)
DaneRead

Member
27 May 2008 at 11:20

does not have to warren i think you must ask your customer if they want it laminated or not.

It will be cheaper without laminate but is not recommended if the roll up will be used more that 5 times a year lets say.

Charge the customer for lamination if he wants it.

I dont laminate mine i print onto a unsupported PVC. BUt i am using a solvent printer.

I sell mine for But 100 pounds.

The unit is the best available in South Africa locally manufactured and they last forever.
Warren Beard

Member
27 May 2008 at 11:30

Thanks Guys

It is pigment inks and it is for a magician when he does his shows so will have to be laminated then I think.

Thanks again

Cheers

Warren
DaneRead

Member
27 May 2008 at 11:37

i would say laminate it.

you would hate to have a come back. I firmly believe do it properly the first time.
Jason Xuereb

Member
27 May 2008 at 12:27

Just a note on laminating make sure your break on your laminator is basically off or turned right down. The tension in the laminate when the break its turned up to get a better finish will make the banner curl.

I’ve seen it from a supplier here after a year their retractors look like shite. We print using solvent inks and don’t laminate. A year later our retractors look heaps better and take a battering.
Nick Dowell

Member
27 June 2008 at 11:11

As I understand the reason they curl when laminated is as there are 2 layers mounted together they will both expand and contract in different climates, as they are doing this at different rates to each other it forms the curling at the edges – e.g the laminate shrinks quicker than the print and pulls the edges in.

I’m not an expert on the matter but this is purely how i understand it.

Thanks,
Nick
Richard Urquhart

Member
27 June 2008 at 11:23

Warren, Peter Normington is a good guy to talk to regarding this, he printed some roll up banners for me and used an over laminate and they were fantastic.
rich
Peter Normington

Member
27 June 2008 at 13:12

Thanks for the compliment Rich, The laminate I use is from europoint and called ability sandgrain
I dont use all the time though, only if the customer wants the extra protection it gives for constant usage.

Peter
Jason Xuereb

Member
27 June 2008 at 14:18

Peter is that a sandtex style laminate?
Richard Urquhart

Member
27 June 2008 at 19:32

I would say not only for protection but the finish makes for a great non reflective texture and makes for a better looking job.
Rich