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can i have advise please on fitting this job?
Hi all i don’t usually do this….i can usually estimate my prices pretty good, but thought id chuck this one in the pot and see what you can suggest.
Job spec:
we have a large dibond or ali faced tray (4400mm x 2440mm approx) that the customer wants us to remove existing vinyl logo/ branding, repaint the re-cover with their new logo/ branding.This seems simple enough except that the signs (x2) are on top of the building at around 33 metres up.
We have looked at access and we can get a wagon mounted basket at a cost of £350.00 per day (expect job to be 3 -4 days work)
Wouls you charge any additional due to its location etc?
Any help or advice appreciated.
cheers
stephen -
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seriously Stephen let some one else do it sounds like serious hassel 😀
unless you think you have something to proove 🙄Lynn
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I can’t really help you beyond saying I would price it two ways:
One, listing everything you stated in your description;
or Two:
If possible, simply adhering a new aluminum face to the existing sign.
(lettered by you safely on the ground!)
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Love…..Jill -
Steve, quote for a cherry picker for one day, measure the sign and see how it it is fixed, remove if easy.
go away make a new sign, then hire the cherry picker again for one day and refit the new or refurbished tray,really pointless trying to do in situe, as the access equipment cost, out ways the tray cost.
Peter
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hi all, thanks for the replies…thats pretty much what i thought, bring the tray down, remanufacture and refit.
cheers
stephen -
I would charge more for the time it took you to do the research and call a few places about the basket rental, staying on hold on the phone, etc…then there’s the time it takes to deal with obtaining and returning the basket – that can eat up quite a bit of time from what I’ve experienced dealing with rental companies – you get there and there are already 10 people ahead of you or some such thing so you sit there for 45 minutes, blah blah blah. The usual unforeseen circumstances when adding an element like this. Could be half a day’s work or more by the time you add it all up.
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Check your insurance Stephen, our’s would not cover us for working at that height, off the top of my head 40′ is our limit.
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quote Chris Dowd:Check your insurance Stephen, our’s would not cover us for working at that height, off the top of my head 40′ is our limit.
So Chris , how many people can safely work from the top of your head? and would the limit be higher in a cherry picker
😀 😉
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I don’t know about from the top of my head Peter, but some days it feels like the whole world is on my shoulders!! 😀
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😀 😀
Peter -
I understand your concern.
Working at height is expensive – your quote needs to reflect that fact.
I recently had a customer argue with me about my installation fee which was higher than the cost of the sign I was producing. I wasn’t prepared to argue with him or even spend the time justifying my prices. I simply explained it was an offer price – take it or leave it.
Not many will be prepared to take on a job like that – your price should reflect that. Make sure you are well paid for the job – otherwise it’s simply not worth the aggravation.
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cheers phill that was my train of thinking….
whether we reface or replace….i will probably submit a quote for both.
cheers
stephen -
One other thing to bear in mind. Have you ever worked in a cherry picker at that height.
A few years ago I used to deliver and demonstrate powered access and you would be suprised how many people get scared at 30 feet let alone 100, despite not being afraid of heights.
100 feet is a very long way down when all that is holding you is the arm of the truck.
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good question Lee, I dont have any fear of heights, but like you say a lot do, I just have a fear of falling…and… hitting the ground
Peter -
And following on from Lee’s comment, does your IPAF license cover you for that height (again, those of my staff who are licensed licenses only cover up to 25 metre).
So check your insurance and check your license before even considering quoting!
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Steven
its not just a case of a cherry picker. Cherry pickers have wind load limits strapping a 8×4 to it will well exceed their limits at 33 mtrs, meaning the slightest gust of wind could land you in a hole heap of trouble. So you would require means of lifting the panel into place again not due to weight but wind force. Due to the size of lift required i’m presuming that you’ll have an IPAF qualified operator and if so you will probably find that he could refuse to operate the lift with the panel on. Expensive mistake if you don’t find that out until the day. Most lifts are a 2 man basket (some 3 man) that means 1 person operating the lift & 1 left holding a 8×4 sheet at 33mtrs not an experience i would fancy.Any way best of luck which ever way you go
Kev
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My opinion……..
If I couldn’t sub it out to a specialist, I would walk away.
I guess that’s not what you wanted to hear. Sorry.
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i don’t think i would do that! 100ft is a tall building. is there no access from the roof? might be an option to get in a couple of guys with climbing gear to do the job, the pro ones, not mates!
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Hi Mate
As mentioned already 100ft is a long way up/down. This is a specialist job and you need to pay some serious attention to risk assessments, health & safety etc. etc. If you aren’t trained to used the lift, fully insured, haven’t notified the local authorities, coned off an enormous working area then you may as well kiss your business good bye if something goes wrong.
We are pretty ambitious and generally will take on anything but if I were you I’d sub out the removal and fitting. Let someone else who does this more frequently have the liabilities.
Incidentally where is the location of the building/sign; shopping area, commercial estate etc ?
Cheers
Macky -
There is no way on earth I would go that high!
As stated, I would hire someone to take it down, do the work on the ground and get the same people to put it back up.
Craig
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