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oki 5600n vs obm 5.6 transfer paper… a problem…
hi all, another quick problem….
those of you who know me, know i’m now set up to do garment / promotional printing on a small scale, using the magic touch’ oki system.
having done ok with the reflective flex, i figured i’d have a go on a dark garment with the obm 5.6 transfer paper in the oki,
i ran off a test print on regular paper, all good, then put the transfer paper through…. disaster!!! the toner doesn’t seem to want to stick to the transfer paper, it does in places, but alot of it gets stuck around the end of the machine, all over those little ‘hair’ things at the back of the last drum, and all over it.
each of the 5 i tried to do did it, then it took about 10 sheets of plain paper run through to clear the muck at the end of each transfer print which went wrong. not one print worked (yet it’s fine on ttc paper),
at nearly £2 a sheet, i’m not putting any more through until the problem is identified!!! also, anything i now print on it, i have to add one copy, the first always comes out covered with old toner that shouldn’t be there.
any idea’s worth trying before i call MT up on monday morning?
TIA.
Hugh
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hugh i am new to laser printing myself still learning fast.
the toner is in effect melted on to the surface the symptoms you describe is that the machine is not hot enough.
there are quite a few different settings for different materials and thicknesses, with your paper should be a guide as to what to set the machine too, not having used that stuff yet, i dont know exactly.
hopefully some one will say or start looking on there web site.my guess would be transparency middle weight ?.
ps what ever you do dont put ordinary vinyl in it.chris
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Sounds like a silly thing to ask but are you using the straight thru paper path!
Bought all the tmt papers (very pricey) except the dark garment one your
having problems with.Had several sheets stick to and wrap themselves around the "hairy one" at the end,and while I had no problems with getting toner onto the sheets
getting it to transfer onto tees/wood was murder – there’s a big learning
curve to getting it right – totally gave up after
ruining many,many blanks.Anyone needing tshirt transfer/hard surface/waterdecal paper?
Mainly use the printer to do banners(1.2m),invitations and vinyl
which I put onto wine boxes. Now the girl who supplies me with
the blank boxes (supplies to gift shops up and down the country) told me
that she had problems with the hard surface paper sticking
to the wood and uses the t-shirt paper instead!!That tells me that the paper ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.
Good luck with it anyway and if TMT are engaged Monday morning
it’ll be me on the phone – see other thread
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p.s. have you realised there’s arrows on the back of the sheets to
indicate which way they should enter the printer. -
try setting the oki to lables and if you are printing a full picture try leaving a space on the lead edge of about 20mm, not edge to edge, should work, same applies to 3.1 as well, doing this never had one wrap around, mind you it took about 30 sheets to find this out, the TMT were not much use!
Ian
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Hugh
What software are you using? The 5600 models are known to be inferior to the 5500 models for toner dispensing on some materials. Especially if you are laying down quite a bit of black.Peter
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HI All,
thanks for the advice, i’ll see if i can find time to have another play with it today, i’m fairly certain the paper went through the right way (arrows), and it was hot enough to put a nice big blister on my finger tip when i was trying to clean the hairy stuff!
i didn’t set it to labels, i’ll ask tmt what i should do i think.
re the software, it’s the oki software which came with the machine, i tried to load tmt’s software but it wouldn’t go in for some reason, this apparently has all the paper settings in it, so maybe i should ask for another to be sent.
cheers.
Hugh -
further to the above….
just checked the settings for the obm paper, i had set it for ‘labels 1’ within the properties, and saved that setting.
it did print better this time, but the black coverage is still a little poor, almost patchy in one area. at least all the toner stuck fast.
still getting black streaky lines coming from somewhere though, need to have another go at cleaning it i think!
on another note. since the image had printed fairly well, i decided to press it onto a brand new, black t-shirt. firstly i noticed the black from the printer is nothing like proper black. also, i pressed using the high temp instructions….
190 degrees, max pressure, 40 seconds,
it says cold peel, but the release paper wasn’t stuck to the transfer, it lifted off with the soft pad.
i let it cool, gave the t-shirt a bit of a pull and the transfer started to lift, so i repeated the process aain, same thing happened, eventually i have it 10 seconds with just some transfer paper and a teflon sheet between (thinking it wasn’t getting hot enough?). removed, let cool, and peeled the transfer off
😕any ideas please?
i’m going to crewe tues night / weds am, so might pop into tmt on the way back if time allows, but would really like to get this cracked before i go tomorow!
cheers.
Hughi’ll post the design in the design help forum, could someone with an oki please print and see if it has any blotchy areas, each of the two i printed ok, seem to have less dense black in different areas,
Hugh
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Just to add to your woe’s I think the durability in washing isn’t that great too on OBM,
Make sure you do a wash test
Ian -
quote Ian Bingham:Just to add to your woe’s I think the durability in washing isn’t that great too on OBM,
Make sure you do a wash test
Ian40 deg wash, no tumble dry! thought this was meant to be the dogs danglies!
http://www.themagictouch.co.uk/download … /obm56.pdf
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Like I said, Try it first, Had some failures with it,
and its no use on the epsom printers either!
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quote Ian Bingham:Like I said, Try it first, Had some failures with it,
and its no use on the epsom printers either!
hi Ian,
is there an alternative then ?
cheers.
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Use the versacamm for shirts now, now thats the dogs!
but should be for the money
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quote Ian Bingham:Use the versacamm for shirts now, now thats the dogs!
but should be for the money
lol, sadly, not an option i have!
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