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  • would anyone know if this is a possible virus?

    Posted by Marcella Ross on 25 January 2008 at 11:45

    I think there’s something afoot with my pc …………… well, my day is going swimmingly so far so I might as well have a f*cking pc virus too, why not?

    Apparently I’m sending out at least 2 emails a day with attachments to some people in my address book. My Outlook is also downloading loads of old emails regularly. For example yesterday I received approx 500 emails all copies of emails I already have. And it’s done this more than once.

    Running a virus scan now but 30 minutes into it it’s still not picked anything up.

    Anyone heard of a virus like this? Any pointers?

    Marcella Ross replied 17 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 17 Replies
  • 17 Replies
  • George Elsmore

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 11:51

    I think it the letswindmarcieupitus virus very serious 😀

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 15:19

    It sounds like a standard trojan / wormy thing 😀 . What anti virus are you running? It should have picked it up if it’s any good. I would recommend NOD32. Hope you are not running Norton!

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 15:22

    running Zone Alarm. Usually picks up trojans no problem. But I’ve just email Supanames, I’m getting copies of old messages that are in my inbox back in again …………………! several times! Maybe the fault is their end????

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 15:53

    Marcella,
    sorry to hear of your bad day hope you have a good evening to make up for it.
    NEVER EVER, let outlook, or for that matter any mail program download emails that you have not veted before they are on your system.
    I always view the headers first and if in any doubt, look at the mail with mailwasher first, so I can see the content, and decide if I will download or not.

    Peter

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 18:24

    How many trojans would you need say, on a weekend then Marcella?

    Peter

  • John Harding

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 21:23

    Hi marcella

    quote :

    running Zone Alarm

    worth running avg along side zone alarm they do different things so compliment each other

    John

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    25 January 2008 at 22:38

    I dumped Zone Alarm years ago.

    I was running VirusBuster (real Version) until a few weeks back, changed over to PC Shield deluxe 2008.

    Check it out here http://www.pcsecurityshield.com/PP/dspS … hield.aspx

    After installing it, it found a trojan that had been missed with the last anti virus program

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 00:11

    Shane, dont want to sound sinical, and give me a slap if you like, I never had a virus, or a worm.
    years ago I bought avg, and zone alarm. dont use zone alarm now as my router does the job, dont really need avg, (as I vet my email on my service providers server before downloading, ) but every day it runs a check and slows the comp down while it does its stuff but still have it installed, and running just in case, but it never does find anything…
    Call it conspiracy, whatever, but download a virus checker, and it will find a virus….

    Most people get worms/trojans whatever by clicking on stuff they shouldn’t…….
    Peter

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 00:13
    quote Peter Normington:

    Shane, dont want to sound sinical, and give me a slap if you like, I never had a virus, or a worm.
    years ago I bought avg, and zone alarm. dont use zone alarm now as my router does the job, dont really need avg, (as I vet my email on my service providers server before downloading, ) but every day it runs a check and slows the comp down while it does its stuff but still have it installed, and running just in case, but it never does find anything…
    Call it conspiracy, whatever, but download a virus checker, and it will find a virus….

    Most people get worms/trojans whatever by clicking on stuff they shouldn’t…….
    Peter

    I have to agree Peter……I think you have found your first conspiracy theory!!! 😀 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 00:23

    I was about to reply Harry, but got a blue screen, what does that mean?
    peter

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 00:27

    Blue Peter?? 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 00:49
    quote Harry Cleary:

    Blue Peter?? 😀

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EIudyP5OzNg

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 00:59

    😀 😀 the days before H&S 😀 😀

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 09:06
    quote Peter Normington:

    Shane, dont want to sound sinical, and give me a slap if you like, I never had a virus, or a worm.
    years ago I bought avg, and zone alarm. dont use zone alarm now as my router does the job, dont really need avg, (as I vet my email on my service providers server before downloading, ) but every day it runs a check and slows the comp down while it does its stuff but still have it installed, and running just in case, but it never does find anything…
    Call it conspiracy, whatever, but download a virus checker, and it will find a virus….

    Most people get worms/trojans whatever by clicking on stuff they shouldn’t…….
    Peter

    I have 7 pc’s peter, and I run a variety of anti virus across all the machines. I have been with AVG for years.

    I get very few viruses, given all the mail I get, and I run a heap of web sites, and get sent all sorts of stuff, from all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. Now and again I get sent, innocently, files that are infected. I haven’t clicked anything that I shouldn’t.

    Your telling me then that anyone that has been caught with a virus is perhaps deserving of the problem because they have not been ‘clean’ in their web surfing?

    I think you have simplified this a bit too much.

    I vet all my email before I download from the servers too, but given that I often don’t know if the sender is legit, I do sometimes get caught, but my anti virus is there for that reason, to keep my security on my PC. Adaware and malaware are big business, as is hacking of websites. I’ve had two of my sites hacked in the last month, and when people clicked on my sites, a trojan was downloaded onto their computer. I knew nothing about it, but then, obviously the surfer shouldn’t have been looking at my site, according to your philosophy.

    Even Symantec didn’t have a fix for the trojan, it was that new. My web host was caught out too, so it was not only me.

    I suggest respectfully peter that you are conservative in your use of the internet. Good on you, but please do me a favour and don’t simplify the situation like you have. If it was such a simple fix, we wouldn’t have a problem, or a multi million anti virus industry..

    Fact is, anyone can pickup malaware, adaware, trojan by simply being deceived. Its as simple as that. If you’ve not ever had one, I’m pleased for you. When you have children that get assignments from school that involve surfing the internet for assignment information, I’m more vulnerable than most businesses. And before you say that my kids must be visiting sites that are ‘unsafe’ I can assure you they are monitored like most responsible parents would do.

    Interestingly, my kids computers have not been infected for some years. So it must be me I guess.

    Consider yourself slapped 😕

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 09:20

    Ok Shane gentle slap accepted,
    I did over simplify. I will try not to do it again,
    but I do sometimes wonder, if the security companies, dont play a tiny part in propagating the nasties that slip down the wires.

    Peter

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 09:56
    quote Peter Normington:

    I do sometimes wonder, if the security companies, dont play a tiny part in propagating the nasties that slip down the wires.

    Peter

    me too mate, it is in their interest to propagate more business. I’ve had the same view for years

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    26 January 2008 at 17:15
    quote Peter Normington:

    Marcella,
    sorry to hear of your bad day hope you have a good evening to make up for it.
    NEVER EVER, let outlook, or for that matter any mail program download emails that you have not veted before they are on your system.
    I always view the headers first and if in any doubt, look at the mail with mailwasher first, so I can see the content, and decide if I will download or not.

    Peter

    Hi Peter,

    I have never caught a pc virus through downloading emails before. Never open attachments or mail from unknown sources.
    Like you my router does a good job too.
    I am less sure this is a virus now ………… I think it is my web host that is at fault. I have emailed them and asked them to check it. Since doing so all the copy emails have stopped coming in.
    The messages that got sent out to others were read receipts and copies of old emails that they had been sent several times. It only affected a handful of people in my address book.

    Anyway, updated my virus definitions and ran 3 checks ……….. nothing has been found. And so far it seems to have stopped.
    Fingers crossed. 🙂

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