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  • Advice on printing a 30m banner?

    Posted by Mike_ghouse on 14 January 2008 at 14:53

    Hi Everyone,

    I am gonna print a 3 meter X 30 Meter Banner. This is my first time doing it. Any tips or advise to me on printing and also on installation?

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    Kind Regards

    Mike Ghouse

    Scot J replied 17 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Lee Mason

    Member
    14 January 2008 at 16:14

    you have a 3m machine..?

    If you have a media take up roller. I would suggest a good feed of the banner to ensure no tracking off.

    I would print a colour bar down 1 or both lengths to keep the head firing nicely.

    I also print the hem area and insert printed circles for the eyeletts. measured in the software not on the finished banner.

  • Mike_ghouse

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 01:40

    Hi Mr. Lee,

    Thanks for your advise. I have some more question?

    I have mimaki JV5 320s 🙂 How should the artwork designed for printing 3m x 30 m? Any suggessitions on this?

    Kind Regards,

    Mike

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 02:55

    I am not sure i understand your question. Are you having doubts of your machine tracking 30 metres or are you having problems setting up artwork for the banner at that size?
    If your machine is setup and media loaded correct, and is 3metres wide with take up roll etc, i don’t think there should be a problem with tracking etc
    assuming you mean artwork setup… if you are working at actual banner size, then 75 dpi is the probably the max your machine will cope with. maybe less, 50dpi? i doubt at this size, that this will be the case though…
    we normally run large banners and the like at 1/4 of the actual size using as high a resolution as possible. in your case, 1.5m x 7.5m. even that sounds big, so scaling it down again would help…
    regardless to what way you go, don’t print the banner without doing a test print. using your software, print a small section of the banner at actual size. approx 2ft x 2ft and have a look at the quality… if it is or isn’t pixelated? remember, "this banner will NOT be viewed up close." so pixals should not be an issue as such…

  • Lee Mason

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 08:53

    If at all possible. I would keep to vector art (obviously, this isn’t always possible).

    As Robert has described. The normal would be artwork at a quarter of the actual size at 300dpi (litho print resolution). I find that my rip (Flexisign) likes pdf files and rips them much quicker than eps files.

    I will always print a reduced proof banner to ensure there are no ripping errors. This is usually a scaled down banner to the full ‘width’ of my machine, thus reducing wastage.

  • DaneRead

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 12:08

    hi lee

    how do you find flexi rip do you have the rip only? or do you have flexi sign pro.

    Where do you get your color profiles from? i am starting to run a HP at the end of the month with flexi pro. Was worried about the lack of color profiles. I can download 3M profiles form 3M Avery doesn’t have many.

    Does it matter what vinyl i use is the a big difference when printing onto Avery vinyl and 3M or orajet. or is vinyl vinyl??

    thanks if you can help

  • Lee Mason

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 12:53

    Flexi Sign Pro yes.

    I find that the colour difference in the vinyls I use is very slight.

    The few profiles I do have were from uniform. I use their inks.

  • DaneRead

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 13:00

    cool thanks for the help.

    Why do you use PDFs if can just rip straight from the program?

  • Lee Mason

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 13:04

    I design in illustrator and rip into the Production Manager.

  • Mike_ghouse

    Member
    15 January 2008 at 13:34

    Hi Mr. Robert Lambie,

    I was having problems setting up the artwork for the actual banner size. I will try out your suggessions and hope it helps me 🙂

    Now I having another problem, my rip is photo print and it does not support more than 15 meters of continous printing. Do I need to RIP using a production house version of it or is there any other rip which can support upto 30 meters of printing and above?

    Kind regards,

    Mike Ghouse

  • Mike_ghouse

    Member
    19 January 2008 at 12:57

    Hi again Mr. Robert Lambie,

    I designed the artwork according to your advise to 1/6th and then blew the vector image to 600 % and setup the printer and started printing….

    I was too scared but, Mimaki JV5 320s did a good job, finished printing in 4 hours.

    Thanks a ton for your help!!! 🙂

    Kind Regards,

    Michael Ghouse

  • Scot J

    Member
    31 January 2008 at 05:16

    On a slightly off topic- how do you like the new jv5 320? I’m sort of tossing around the idea of getting one in the next 6-12 months. I have had a few mimaki machines, but only 160mm’s.

    If you don’t mind me asking, what was the price range on it? $80-$100k USD?

  • Mike_ghouse

    Member
    1 February 2008 at 02:54

    The cost of JV 5 is about 80K $ USD! This is a awesome machine and its also very fast…..

    I have a JV5 320S and I printed 3 X 30 m banner in about 3 hours….
    quite fast nah….

  • Scot J

    Member
    1 February 2008 at 03:03

    Nice, and with some negotiating I can get it down down to $60k 😀

    It’ll probably be atleast 12 months before I pull the trigger, so the price will come down a bit as well.

    I just bought a JV33 and the thing is great. I couldn’t imagine having 4 of those awesome print heads together.

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