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Faded transparent image
Hi, after a bit of advice before I try this. My customer has asked for a bright green faded strip to stick onto a Black backboard, I don’t think I can do this using my versacamm because the inks are semi-transparent I will lose the impact, the other way I thought of doing it is to print a faded white background with my Edge and then overprint it, thus creating the colour required
Re-printing the whole background with the black in place is out of the question for this job.
Anyone tried this before??Happy New Year to ALL.
Jason
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I would probably just print a fade from green to black onto white vinyl. Allow a bleed area all around then contour cut the strip so no white is showing when the strip is applied to the board. However this is probably just the same as what you have already ruled out , i.e. "Re-printing the whole background with the black in place is out of the question for this job"
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edge will do it but make sure you reduce the white basecoat by say 5%
so it doesnt show, I would use a halftone dot effect on matt clear vinylPeter
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Thanks for the advice Peter, I was hoping you would see the post, will try this.
Regards
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I would expect that if you print a graduated band of white – then overprint this with a graduated band of green – you will never get 100% accurate registration – which will result in specks of white appearing on your print. 😮
I’d be interested to hear how you get on 😕
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That was my worry, however I think with the different printing styles of both machines it may work. I’ll post the test results.
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quote Phill:I would expect that if you print a graduated band of white – then overprint this with a graduated band of green – you will never get 100% accurate registration – which will result in specks of white appearing on your print. 😮
I’d be interested to hear how you get on 😕
Phil, by reducing the base coat it does in effect bleed the top colour over the base, works well but better with a hallftone (or adjust the lpi to large round dots) same thing different approach, not usually a problem with registration, on the edge.
unfortunately I just had a clear out, got rid of all my old edge samples, otherwise I could have shown you some perfect examples, I do sometimes regret selling the edge, after I bought the mimaki…..Peter
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@ Peter Normington
Peter, just noticed this post, and it seems you have experience of the edge machine. i have a slight problem, (which you seem to have touched lightly on above) you say that the registration is not normally a problem with the edge. I am having problems with registration ATM, using CMYK is a NO-NO, as the registration is so far out(1-2mm) between foils!!! 😥 and using spots can be just as bad if i use numerous foils,which. luckily i have not had to yet.
Have i inadvertently altered something somewhere?? i am not sure of the terminology used in the Omega help files.??Any help would be appreciated.
CheersDarryl
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Daryl.
I dont have any idea about omega as I have only ever used signlab.
I doubt if its a software problem though. I never had a problem with registration over 4/5 years of using the edge 2, The secret is in the design sometimes as you need to use bleeds traps and over prints to avoid minor mis-alignments
and cymk especially was spot on. the only thing that I know that does sometimes cause cymk problems is if you are using foils that are of different usage. eg a new black and part used other colours.I never needed to alter anything on the printer itself, although there are some adjustments for alignment, i believe, perhaps if you reset to factory defaults it may help.
sorry not much help, as I said never needed to mess with the printer itself
Peter
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ok, so i don’t print… stoopid question coming now i guess,,,,
why is it not possible to simply print a white to black fade, on a white vinyl, then green to black over the top,
surely if the problem is semi transparent inks, then it’ll be bright green on the white, fading to a dark green / black as it covers the black??
just curious!
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quote Hugh Potter:ok, so i don’t print… stoopid question coming now i guess,,,,
why is it not possible to simply print a white to black fade, on a white vinyl, then green to black over the top,
surely if the problem is semi transparent inks, then it’ll be bright green on the white, fading to a dark green / black as it covers the black??
just curious!
That’s what I had suggested and Jason has already ruled out in the outset (i.e a fade from Green to black on white vinyl – which is the same thing but in one step instead of two)
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Okay, spent some time running out some test strips which are sitting on the black fronted piece on my graphtec (saves wandering down to the workshop). I tried overprinting with the versacamm, this blocked out all of the gerber white but saturated the vinyl leaving a dull colour, the best results I have had are overprinting with the gerber, I just need to colour match now and tile if I go down this route.
Jason
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