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  • Need help with design for my front shop window?

    Posted by Nik Nieuwenhuis on 17 October 2007 at 04:08

    Hi all,

    Need help with design for my front shop window?

    Attached is the design I have in mind.
    also I’ve attached a small photo of the front shop.

    The designs are going on the right hand windows.
    the left hand side is a glass sliding window.

    Sizes are 2 big glass windows
    Top is approx 2200mm x 1200mm
    Bottom is 2200mm x 700mm

    Not sure if what I’ve done is too much? Bit full on? Or if the angles on the words will make it too hard to read?
    Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions are all welcome…


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    Jason Xuereb replied 18 years ago 20 Members · 41 Replies
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  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 05:07

    Can you mock it up on the window? Is the white going to be the glass or you flood coating it in white and using red over the top?

  • Nik Nieuwenhuis

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 05:47

    it’s not going to be flood coated. Just the red panels & the glass.

    i’ve attached a mock up of the window…


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  • Graeme Harrold

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    17 October 2007 at 05:58

    The radius of the text is not consistent and therefore breaks up the readability.

    Drop the "Web Design" and include it in "Graphic & Web Design".
    Adjust the start radius of the text so that its all the same.

    Ensure all of the red fingers are the same thickness

    Make the red lines actually line up between the two windows rather than split the graphic and shifting it down i.e. create the full size graphic and chop out the strip for the window frame.

    Just a few pointers based on looks[/list][/list]

  • Glenn Sharp

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    17 October 2007 at 06:52

    Is it not possible to put anything on the left hand window or is it that the sliding door will be open most of the time so anything on there would clash with the right hand door? …if that makes sense

    If that was the case I would try & come up with something clever that when the left door covered the right door everything still read perfectly normal 🙂

  • Nik Nieuwenhuis

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 07:03

    yeah, that could work…

    the sliding door is closed 99% of the time, so I could use it for signage also.
    i wanted to keep it blank for light if possible… but open to suggestions…

  • David Glen

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 07:39

    Sorry Nik but IMHO it just doesn’t work.

    First glance I saw the Japanese flag.
    Second glance, the stripes.
    Third glance the vacant left window.
    Fourth glance – the wording.

    It’s just too much and requires study rather than a catch-the-eye get the message across.

    All the lines congregate at the left edge as though there is something to point at yet there is nothing. Left like this it will look as though you’ve just had a window replaced.

    If you want to stick with the idea I would have at least half as many lines, add a focal point at the convergence, and continue the idea in to part of the left window.

    Personally I would try a few other designs (you did ask and only trying to be constructive)!

    I’ve shown a draft of a job done many years ago on a similar theme.
    (fascia not actual).
    The design on the glass did not extend down the window as full visibility was needed.
    However, the main message they wanted to convey was the Japanese theme to their products, and of course that is done even without any wording.


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  • Nik Nieuwenhuis

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    18 October 2007 at 01:26

    great! thanks for your comments guys!
    will come up with a few more idea’s and come back soon with some more designs…

  • Terry Bull

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    18 October 2007 at 17:57

    a suggestion


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  • Terry Bull

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    18 October 2007 at 18:49

    now if you really wanted the attention ….


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  • Nik Nieuwenhuis

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    24 October 2007 at 01:36

    ok, worked on a couple more designs for you guys to have a look at?

    please let me know what you think of these designs?
    comments? suggestions?


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  • Jason Xuereb

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    24 October 2007 at 03:38

    design_02.jpg

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 07:58

    I think design _01 catches the eye better. Looks more contemporary, but I think the text still needs a little bit of tweaking, maybe it’s just the picture that’s making it look as if it’s not sitting quite right though. (?)

  • David Glen

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 08:00

    I like idea 1 with changes.

    Take away the big red block.
    Move the text block a bit to the right, do the text in red and back it with a rectangle of etch.

    Put the bottom window etch band back, again with red text where placed.
    This will tie the top and bottom windows together.

    Lower case is far better than all caps, so much preferred.

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 08:11

    i like one too, but have to agree with changing the font, look forward to seeing your job finished 😀

    nik

  • Chris Gusman

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 08:22

    Hi Nik, I’m liking designs 02 / 03. I like that piece of artwork on your wall inside (red and white abstract), why not create something like the red element of it and place that within the frosted band on the bottom panes and align it to the left. If i passed by in a car i would expect to see a company name on the glass or a sign above.

    I can some Swiss elements going on here, Brockmann maybe?
    Maybe its just the red making me think that.

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 08:47
    quote chris gusman:

    I can some Swiss elements going on here, Brockmann maybe?

    WTF? 😮 Chris, it’s just a red vinyl ‘thingy’. 😀

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 08:51
    quote Marcella:

    quote chris gusman:

    I can some Swiss elements going on here, Brockmann maybe?

    WTF? 😮 Chris, it’s just a red vinyl ‘thingy’. 😀

    😀 😀 😀 think she is trying to say ‘this isn’t UKBS’!!! 😀 😀
    Welcome to the madhouse Chris!!! 😀

  • Chris Gusman

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 09:13

    It wasn’t just the "red vinyl thingy" i was getting at Marc, it was the use of simple shapes like the red rectangle behind the text and the frosted banding to create a contemporary design. In design 01 the use of scewed text was a typical element used by Brockmannn and the red panel.

    You should check out some of his design Marc and Swiss Graphic Design, its beautiful , in my opinion he was a master of creating outstanding design using only simple elements. Check out his typography as well, a true legend.

  • Chris Gusman

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 09:28

    Cheers Harry, see what you mean!

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 09:35

    have you ever known me to be serious Chris? 😉

  • Chris Gusman

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 09:38

    Only about Drinking!

  • Marcella Ross

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    24 October 2007 at 09:41
    quote chris gusman:

    Only about Drinking!

    …….. kettle ……………..pot ………………….black …………..!!!!!!!! :lol1:

  • Chris Gusman

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 09:44

    Yip, i’ll drink Guiness out of anything…

  • Andrew Boyle

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 19:20

    I like all 3……….not sure about the type….can you post the pic without graphics 😀

    Nice Though 😀

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    24 October 2007 at 21:49

    just another take on it.


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  • Glen Mathers

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    24 October 2007 at 22:15

    I like Terry’s 2nd go, can’t you go with the change of colour or does it have to be red??

  • Robert Lambie

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    25 October 2007 at 00:28

    Had a bash at this… I’m not keen on the bottom one that i have done… kinda lost the plot mid-way with that one… (need to lay off the acid i think!) 😕

    [c][/c]

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  • Glen Mathers

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    25 October 2007 at 10:51

    I like them both, the first one just about gets my vote though. 😀

  • Terry Bull

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    25 October 2007 at 11:07

    Robs first for me..thats the …..

  • Terry Bull

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    25 October 2007 at 11:09

    I think his brother had an influence on the second

  • TimDouglas

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    25 October 2007 at 11:12

    First for me also Robert – sweet as

  • Marc F

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 17:46

    Great design work there Robert, the second one is really eye catching but it makes the writing hard to read!

    The first one is really good, simple and effective. I like it! :2thumbs:

  • Neil Speirs

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 18:12
    quote Robert Lambie:

    Had a bash at this… I’m not keen on the bottom one that i have done… kinda lost the plot mid-way with that one… (need to lay off the acid i think!) 😕

    [c][/c]

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    there the dogs dangelys :2thumbs:

    I would definitely go for the in your face approach 😎

  • Andrew Boyle

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 18:56

    Liked Rob’s a lot so thought I’d do something completely different!!!!!! 😀 in your face 😀

    "alright wee man!"
    "HIGH BIG GUY"
    "you must be a dog"


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  • Nicola McIntosh

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    25 October 2007 at 20:09

    :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: nice one andrew 😀

    rob love the first one….superb 😉

    nik

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 22:51

    Robs designs do it for me. You are offering an advertising service. Your potential clients need to believe you can make them stand out. I always use photos in my own designs and find this works well.

    Karl.

  • Nik Nieuwenhuis

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 23:11

    robs first one is great!
    my only thing though is I don’t have a digital printer. Just a cutter. Was trying to avoid getting it outsourced if possible….

    it gave me a couple of idea’s though… i’ll have another go today and see what i can come up with…

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 23:16

    sorry Rob,
    looks like an escort agency advert 😉

    Peter

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    25 October 2007 at 23:27

    At least it doesn’t look like a sex shop Peter! 😉

  • Pryam Carter

    Member
    26 October 2007 at 12:26

    I also like Robs ideas, they make you look twice. Whether you take in what or not the shop is all about is down to the individuals.

    On another note, where can you get high res images like the top model and similar?

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    26 October 2007 at 23:54

    Pryam istockphoto.com is pretty good and easy on the wallet.

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