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Lamination Fluid
Hi guys I need some help with finding a supplier of matt laminating fluid, like frog juice but i would like to apply by roller, it but be matt and not gloss finish
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Ive got some from graphityp in a tin you are welcome to have – if you need in a hurry let me know
Think its matt but not certain but you can experiment
John
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Hi mate, would it be better if I ran my business from your place, fantastic photo you posted
I will take you up on that offer just need to find out if its matt may be I could call Mark on MondayJohn your a star thanks mate oh don’t forget the rock !!!
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rich, i cant comment on the product but have a look at
http://www.landoruk.com
at some clearstar stuffchris
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quote Chris Wool:rich, i cant comment on the product but have a look at
http://www.landoruk.com
at some clearstar stuffchris
I have just got some from them, its the gloss, works very well so far.
Nick.
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Guys thats just the stuff i wanted many thanks rich
Nick do they send it out next day ??? -
quote Richard Urquhart:Nick do they send it out next day ???
Yes mate.
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Thanks Nick
is it expensive ?? i only need to buy i would guess 1 lt as i have a board 3000mm x 740mm
any ideas
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quote :3000mm x 740mm
the pc 60 will be busy 😉
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gosh no way mate that’s a complete NO NO its not a digital print but for a shop fit doing something strange will post when finished
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quote Richard Urquhart:Thanks Nick
is it expensive ?? i only need to buy i would guess 1 lt as i have a board 3000mm x 740mm
any ideas
thanks rich1lt is £45 ish. 😮
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another gosh
would i be able to get half that ?? i.e 500ml
sorry mate I do understand your not part of their sales team !!! -
Think 1lt is min order mate. was told that it should cover 12 sq M.
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quote :doing something strange
normal job then
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Chris I guess I’m lucky really I’m working on a nice L.E.D Sign at the moment built up lettering , gloss red letters with white L.E.D s., funny old game Sign work is amazing it covers a wide range of things and the better I get the more I love it
Rich
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Would just like to add I sent landor an email and have had a reply too giving me all the info i need, its nice to get such a fast response and its Saturday !!!
again thanks for the contact
Rich
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derric
I disagree, liquid laminate is not ideal for vehicle wraps, it has a low resistance to abrasion, and I think you may be biased? as a supplier.Peter
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Pete,
Thats the first time I have heard that. normally I have heard the opposite. I do think though that maybe there are some products out there that are not so scratch resistant. I actually try not to be biased in anything I deal with as I work more on an application basis. I would certainly appreciate your feedback if you wanted to put it to the test because I would not want to be suggesting anything that it isnt. Besides the purpose of our product is to provide the solutions.
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Dont want to rock the boat but unlike Peter we actually recomend liquid laminate for most vehicle wraps, the exceptions being when the vehicle is regularly washed by automated brush equipment ie buses.
Logic tells me that when so many wraps fail, pulling out of recesses etc. it is a lot more likely that one "skin" of vinyl with what amounts to a varnish will stand a lot more chance of being stable than two layers of vinyl, both trying to pull back out. Incidently, we have never had a come back or complaint either on the quality or longevity of any wrap we have supplied with a liquid laminate.
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Phil, Its only my opinion, the laminate does not cause recesses to fail, its the way its applied that is the problem, I have fitted vinyl, with and without laminate to many sprinters without any come back.
I am quite happy to accept liquid laminate as a cheaper alternative to vinyl, and for short term use. however I stand by what I say, it is not as abrasion resistant, I stand to be corrected, but if you rubbed both types of laminate with a scotchbrite pad, I wonder which would take longer to bare the print?
Not rocking the boat either, I am always open to advice and tips from the more experienced, but derric was flogging his products, and stated that liquid laminate was ideal for vehicle wraps, but without any data or reasons.
Can you show any comparative test data as to how liquid versus film compare?Peter
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I agree with Peter that liquid laminate is nowhere near as abrasion resistant as film.
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Peter, a lot depends on your reasoning for laminating in the first place, if you are laminating to preserve the vibrance and quality of the print a liquid laminate does the job no problem, if however you are laminating to prevent stone chips on bonnets, abrasive brushes such as carwashes etc., then film laminate is your boy. It all depends on what your brief is as to life expectancy of the job. As a standard we use liquid, as we do on our own vehicles, which seems to last perfectly well, If you have a customer who is not prepared to lovingly look after the work of art you have created for him and thinks that cleaning his vehicle is best attempted by a yops lad with a scotchbrite and a can of T-cut the only way it can last is with a film laminate.
By the way I am in total agreement with regards to a lot of failiures being down to application technique, but I stand by what I say that there is no film on the market today that will wrap all vehicles successfully 100% of the time. -
we used liquid laminate with good success before we got the laminator… to be honest customers haven’t come back.. we was fairly happy with the results. Only issue really was eveness of coating and speed to apply.
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Phil,
I go along with all you are saying,
thats why I disputed liquid as ideal, Its horses for courses…Peter
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[quote="Phil Halling"]…if you are laminating to preserve the vibrance and quality of the print a liquid laminate does the job no problem….[/quote]
just to "preserve the vibrance and quality of the print" for vehicle wraps, Can you also use a "CLEAR lacquer Acrylic Epoxy Spray Paint" (as shown here: http://www.rjlondon.com/ae.htm). It’s the kind of CLEAR spray paint that you can find in most DIY stores. I don’t have a laminator yet, and I can’t find a supplier of liquid laminate here.
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