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Can anyone recommend supplier to install a bulk ink system?
Hi guys just had the machine installed recently and ink usage on the 220ml cartridges seems to be quite high.
Can anyone recommend a supplier who can install a bulk ink system and ink supply. Machine currently uses Eco Ultra inks supplied by Spandex.
Cheers
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remember your first set of ink has to fill the machine etc,
the following carts seem to last a lot longer, and i would expect unless supplied by spandex they will void the warranty if using bulk ink.chris
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Hi Chris
Yes your right about the first ink set filling the machine. In fact when the engineer installed the machine, it chucked the ink charging at around 96% and he had to redo it and totally used up all the initial ink supplied with the machine. He had to borrow a set from another client to finish the install.
I’ve only ran about around 20 to 30 linear metres of various material but only at the production setting. Had an issue where the magenta cartridge was showing an ink capacity of about 30% and totally emptied after one linear metre of vinyl had printed, albeit it was a solid colour which used 70% magenta in the colour make-up.
I’ll check with Spandex re: the warranty issue, but there’s nothing in the documentation and the engineer has said that there is an bulk option. Although knowing Spandex it’ll be expensive.
thanks
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if the ink levels are anything like rolands the the only accurate reading of remaining ink is empty the rest is a guess.
chris
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Hi John this company keep ringing me with third party inks i also have a spandex machine and i used to use there inks i get 220ml cartridges for £30 quid plus vat but they also do bulk feed systems and refillable cartridges really cheap a litre for about £70 i think he said any way there website is http://www.graphicdiscount.co.uk/ and there telephone number is 01772 250207 hope this helps mate!!!!! 😀
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Thanks Matt
I’ll give them a try on Monday. Fed up paying £48 per 220ml cart. 😮
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hello
if you use a 3rd party ink in a machine which is new and under warranty, you can kiss good buy to the warranty on everything in the ink system, and to be fair to mutoh, from what we have seen, 3rd party inks if you get a good batchs they are very good and save you money, but if you get a bad batch, get the camp bed out for the engineer,
regards
alan flynn -
Cheers for the reply Alan.
Trying to weigh up all the options. Just spent a grand on inks this month to hold stock as the machine seems to eat ink and don’t want to be in a situation where I’m out of stock and let a client down. Especially when it’s a new company and trying to build business.
Looking at the potential costs over a year on buying OEM ink against bulk system, cheaper ink and possible engineer costs.
Seems to be little in the way of info as the Mutoh machine is relatively new in the Uk.
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hello john,
one other thing, talking as a sign maker and not a reseller, i have used 3 third party inks and had trouble with colours fading after about 2 years,
i also have jobs that i have done with my rockhopper 1 using mutoh inks that are still ok after 3 to 4 years,
also jobs we done with our graphtec jx 2000 series after 4 years that are still ok,
so if you only have to do the job once maybe the extra ink cost is money well spent,
regards
alan flynn -
Hi Alan
Yes I agree with the issue of fading ink. If I can find a bulk ink solution that uses Mutoh Inks that would be great. What’s the chances though. The problem also with carts is that the ink percentage left in the cart display in the printer is never accurate.
Give you an example. Last week I was printing a 1.5 x 2.5metre print for a client who needed it next day. I also had to drop of some work to another client. So I set up the machine to print onto the take-up, checked the ink capacity which showed that all the carts where at 40% or more capacity. I left to come back and find that after printing around one linear metre that the magenta ink was out. pain in the @ss or what. I spoke to the engineer about it and he said that the carts are never accurate. So what’s the point in having a pecentage usage displayed?
Anyway, now that I’ve had my Monday morning rant I can go back to work feeling better. LOL.
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Hi John, maybe I can help you. I have rockhopper 1 and use OEM ink. The result is excelent. If u r interesed I can recomended you to the guy from ink factory so they can contact you. trust me ink is same like original.
So you can help me, I want to byu value jet. What is your opinion about it. How much it print on hour? Is quazlity of print good. I’m very satisfy with rockhopper quality but its too slow.Regards
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Hi there
I can fully recommend the Valuejet. Machine runs like a dream. I’m printing most of my jobs at the faster speed of about 15 square metres per hour and the quality is superb.
Please pass me the details of the ink supplier and I’ll certainly look at it.
Cheers
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Hi
We have had our VJ 1604 for 7months now and it is a pleasure to use, highly recommended.We would be interested in receiving details of a bulk ink system if possible.
Cheers
Neil -
Hi there,
I’m using Bordeaux ink for 4 months. Never had problem with heads or nozles. Ink is excelent. Try to find it (mod-edit) write to Gleb. Thanks for your opinion about valuejet. I think I will bye it. How much u paid for it?
Regards
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We purchased our VJ from Allan Flynn
Neil
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