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  • Vinyl on to flat cut letters

    Posted by Warren Beard on 13 August 2007 at 07:28

    Hi All

    I am doing my first job with flat cut letters (not stand off) and have to cover the face of the letters in vinyl.

    Letters are only 100mm high

    How and when should I flood coat each letter? before or after sticking down and is there a trick to trimming around the letters or would I be able to cut the letters first on cutter and then apply in one piece?

    Thanks

    Warren

    Ian Johnston replied 18 years, 4 months ago 9 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 07:45

    When I last did this I covered each letter in vinyl then turned them over face down onto the bench and trimmed away the excess vinyl using a scalpel bade. Don’t know if this is the best way to do it – but it worked well enough for me.

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 09:02

    I prefer flood covering and then use a needle file and file the vinyl
    that way there’s no likely-hood of vinyl lifting in the future.

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 09:05

    Warren,

    I wouldn’t bother cutting the letters on your cutter,

    I would just use squares/rectangles of vinyl….apply them dry, cutting them to size & trying to apply is more hassle than enough.

    I would recommend applying the vinyl first then you can trim them much easier……

    You can either turn them face down like Phil suggested or run a sharp knife around the edges to trim them

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 11:32

    Hi

    Thanks Phill, Fred & Glenn

    That’s no problem then, thanks for the help, much appreciated.

    cheers

    Warren

  • Brian Little

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 13:39

    hmm warren i would be more tempted to spray them….first with a plasticizers …then a top coat.Ive done them like this before a good few years ago and they still look good as new on the job .Just a thought

  • Matt Hards

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 13:59

    i dont know if this is a silly question, but why do you need to cover them in vinyl, im assuming because you cannot get a colour match in acrylic etc?? ive jjust posted my first flat cut letter job photos too !

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 14:43

    Hi Matt

    Customer wants this effect.

    *** not my picture, taken from someone on the boards ***

    cheers

    Warren

  • Matt Hards

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 14:46

    ah rite, i see, that does look very cool, i like. cheers for explaining 🙂

  • Brian Little

    Member
    13 August 2007 at 15:19

    AHHH

  • Neil Churchman

    Member
    14 August 2007 at 18:53
    quote Fred Mc:

    I prefer flood covering and then use a needle file and file the vinyl
    that way there’s no likely-hood of vinyl lifting in the future.

    I would do it the same as Fred suggests, and after the vinyl has dried, file off the edges at 45 degrees with a finger nail sanding board to get a good bond to the edges of the clear acrylic. 🙂

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    14 August 2007 at 18:57

    I think I will try this way and if no success I will try Phill’s method.

    cheers guys

    Warren

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    14 August 2007 at 19:42

    at that size i would say these letters are laser router cut with the vinyl applied like phill has described. If it is not "laser cut" then they have had the letters edge flame polished.
    once you have your letters, wipe them down with a damp cloth to eliminate static. place them on a very clean, dust free table.
    cut and oversized square of vinyl and completely peel backing paper.
    tack top two corners to the table just above the letter below the vinyl, whilst keeping the vinyl taught begin to lay down over the letter applying where you see the letter appearing thru the vinyl.
    some folk actually tape the vinyl up and apply to the face, flip it face down and trim with scalpel.
    i would say "not" to trim with the face facing up as you may cut into the acrylic which maybe noticeable on such small polished letters.

    note: you should charge extra for the laser cut/polished edge also for the
    vinyl face.

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    14 August 2007 at 19:47

    Thanks Rob

    They will be flame polished so I will follow your suggestion.

    I had charged for both as suggested.

    Thanks

    Warren

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    14 August 2007 at 20:27

    the easiest way to trim vinyl to the edge of a letter is to shave it from the face at 45 degrees with a very sharp scaple blade, the easiest way to describe this and please nobody laugh at what i’m about to say, trim the vinyl like your mum does the pastry around a tart if you know what i mean i.e pull scaple blade against the edge but away from the letter. it leave a very clean edge and doesn’t lift . this method is also very effective on apply etch vinyl to glass doors with a bevel at the edge.

    Ian

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