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    Posted by Michael Tremarco on 9 August 2007 at 10:43

    Iv’e just had delivery of my ex demo Versacamm sp 450 😀
    During the training day I discovered the two flanges for the media rolls still in the bags. I asked why do you not use them? Being a WF newcomer I wondered why they were not placed into the media roll and the technician said that no one uses them. You just put the media roll straight onto the the two parallel roll feeder poles, line it up and off you go! The stoppers were obviously left in the box as there was no need for them without the flange supports. Just asking folks, is this normal practice or is it essential for them to be fitted?
    Thanks

    Chris Wool replied 18 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Gary Birch

    Member
    9 August 2007 at 10:57

    I don`t use mine … I did try them on banner vinyl when I was having feed problems but they didn`t solve the problem. Other than that I have had no need to even try them.

    Cheers

    Gary

  • Michael Tremarco

    Member
    9 August 2007 at 11:21

    Thanks Gary 🙂

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    9 August 2007 at 12:01

    nope….never used them…works fine without them

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    9 August 2007 at 12:05

    I use the wee roll stoppers so that I put the roll in the same place each time. I experimented with the big supports and found them to be a waste of time!

    G

  • Michael Antrum

    Member
    19 August 2007 at 08:47

    Hello Michael

    The reason they are supplied is to keep the media printing surface from scuffing whilst resting on the roll bars at the rear of the machine. (However, in reality it’s never been much of a problem.) The reason no-one uses them is they have a habit of falling off in the middle of a print and cocking up the job. I would suggest you use them as art.

    Roland have now re-designed the flanges with an expanding rubber gripper so they don’t fall off and these now come with the new VP range,

    Regards,

    Mike

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    19 August 2007 at 09:04
    quote michael antrum:

    Roland have now re-designed the flanges with an expanding rubber gripper

    sounds just like the holders on my summa !! expanding rubber.

    don’t often use mine to be honest, depends how much i have to cut, if only small quantities i don’t se the point to swap them about every 5 mins !

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    19 August 2007 at 13:45

    well that really surprises me i wouldn’t dream of not using them.
    they keep the weight of the vinyl
    they offer less friction to the pinch rollers.
    they allow the vinyl to unroll correctly.
    they keep the surface clean and mark free.
    every one to there own i suppose

    chris

  • Frank Horner

    Member
    19 August 2007 at 14:05

    I don’t think there is much of an issue if you are cutting, but for printing it is much better, but yes they fall out.
    I sorted my problem by using the media support kit from my Signpal cutter, it has the expanding rubber and it also fits a little deeper into the core giving excellent support, so much so I bought a second pair.
    I had to sleeve the guide collars to fit the Roland rollers.
    Now I can even leave the vinyl on the machine without fear of flat spots.

    Frank

  • Michael Tremarco

    Member
    19 August 2007 at 22:15

    Thanks Guys,
    The flange rollers I have are the new type that allow you to tighten them in the end of the roll with the rubber expander inside. I cannot see any difference by using them or not. However, i have yet to encounter a ‘flat spot’ ( being a newbie, I am even unsure of what that is 😳 )
    I think I will get into the habit of using them if only to encourage good housekeeping on my part.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    19 August 2007 at 22:48
    quote :

    I think I will get into the habit of using them if only to encourage good housekeeping on my part.

    pleased to hear it. – the flat spot is where the weight of the vinyl roil on the rollers. but you will not suffer from that now

    chris

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