-
redsail cutters?
Hi all,
After purchasing a craft robo to get a bit of a feel for things, I am now ready to buy something larger. I have been doing a little research and came accross a redsail (not sure if i’m meant to post a link here so i wont for now)
here are the specs, it costs about £500 or so, can anyone please advise if this is ok, and why its much cheaper than an "equivalent" graphtec or roland.Thanks
code :MODEL RS800C
CONTROL SYSTEM RISC CPU
Buffer Capacity 1-4MB
Drive type Stepper motor
Media Size 800MM
Cutting Size 700MM
Cutting Speed 10-800MM/S
Cutting Force 10-500g
LCD display English
Mechanical Resolution 0.0254MM/STEP
Software Resolution 0.0254MM/STEP
Repeatability 0.1MM
Commands/Language HPGL/DMPL
Control Panel English
Interfaces RS232
Power AC90V--220V -
12 Replies
-
If you would like to type ‘redsail’ into the search box at the top of the screen you could then spend many a happy minute reading the discussions that have been had on this forum facility on said plotter.
-
The person that sent me the PM, Im not allowed to send a pm for whatever reason
(the reason why your not alowed to post pm’s is because you are not a uksb member, please view the membership details before posting such details on an open forum) this post will be deleated shortly
-
Most of the machines are pretty similar so any posts relating to Pcuts and similar plotters will more than likely apply to this as well, why is it so much cheaper? Well from what I have read there are a number of reasons. For one thing they apparently operate slower than the Graphtec’s, summa’s etc. They don’t have a tangential cutting option and a lot of them are not CE approved.
One of the biggest problems seems to be lack of support and after sales service, most of the problems seem to be related to setting them up and there quite often is no support from the seller so people don’t know what to do. There are people on the boards who use them and are very happy with them
Personally I would spend the extra money and buy something like a Graphtec or Summa even if it was only to get the support and back-up that comes with them. OK it’s more money but this is going to be your main business tool and will pay for itself pretty quickly. I would save for a little bit longer or get a loan to buy it if necessary. After all a business is something that you should be prepared to invest in.
-
Thanks Martin, signs arnt my main business but it is something I am getting more involved in as my other business (dye sub – which is also secondary to my main business – I run an IT company) seems to have taken a natural lean. I appreciate that you generally get what you pay for, and if my business depended on it then there would be no doubt whatsoever about NOT buying a cheap one, my idea was though, rather than spend a grand or more, to buy one for £400 and see if 1-I would indeed have a use for it, and 2- if it would be big enough! The actual finance isnt a problem – its the justification.
quote :The person that sent me the PM, Im not allowed to send a pm for whatever reason(the reason why your not allowed to post pm’s is because you are not a uksb member, please view the membership details before posting such details on an open forum) this post will be deleated shortly
What happened to the rest of my post? has that been deleted also because Im not a member ? all it said was that I searched but didnt find the information I was looking for.
Im not sure what you mean by posting "such details" on an open forum??
I havnt been here long, and am not likely to upgrade to a subscribed member if this is the general attitude that I am likely to come accross, have I upset someone here ? -
I would personally rather buy a second hand Graphtec or Roland etc than one of these imported machine’s
I would feel safer knowing that service & parts would be a lot closer to hand
-
Thanks.
I think the second hand option may indeed be the best, however this itself leads to two potential issues- first is finding one! then of course not knowing a lot about them who is to say I wont get one thats ready for the bin!
Bit of a dilema really, I suppose the only real solution is to buy a brand new one, but again until I’ve actually got one I wont know if its the right size/does everything etc.
I think this is going to be one of those decisions that is going to take some time.What is tangential cutting?
-
I thought you had already used the Craft Robo, which you found too small, so you already know you want a ‘proper’ plotter?
-
Most people get away with using a 610mm wide plotter, that will plot just about everything you are likely to be doing. If you get the odd job that requires a wider width you have the option to either tile it or get someone else to plot it for you.
I am actually surprised you have the time to even think about a third business, most of the guys I know who own IT businesses are struggling to cope with the amount of work they have already without having to worry about a second business, especially with the problems people are having with vista. -
Hi,
Indeed, I need a "proper cutter" however it is still a matter of getting the right "spec" one. I’m still in two minds and probably wont decide for a couple of weeks. The size is important of course, I dont want to get a too small one, but neither do I want to get a monster of thing.
My IT side doesnt do a great deal with home pc’s – although it still does at times, and the business supported are either on XP or 2k (yep, there are still some and going strong!) so luckily Im avoiding most of the vista problems, hopefully a service pack or two will improve things but theres still the compatablitiy issue. Back to 9x to XP days in a way.
-
eggy?
aubergine?Just to sum it up
As an IT guy..
would you buy
dos
windows 3x
windows 98
windows NT
Windows millennium
Windows 200
Or XP?Windows 3x is redsail
XP is graphtec, summa, mimaki etc.
(vista)?
need we say more?
Peter
-
Many thanks,
That sums it up pretty well!
Basically if I want one thats about as much use as a tea bag is waterproof then go for an "el cheapo" otherwise dig deeper or wait for a used one.
I’ve just been looking and used ones are few and far between, looks like I’m more than likely going to hold out a little while longer, I really cant justify the outlay. I do WANT one, but as for "need one" thats a different story, I will make my money back on it regardless but as previously mentioned, this isnt my main source of income and always has to take a back seat – which is a shame as even doing the smaller items with the robo it is most enjoyable, and I’m a great believer in enjoying your work.
I assumed (maybe wrongly) that a cheaper one would give me a bit more of an insight into larger format cutting, after reading your post something sprang to mind which I see on an almost day to day basis – "I’ve had such and such for ages and its been fine" only when the "such and such" has been replaced with a superior model, they wonder how they ever managed. I believe this is more than likely the case here.Thanks again
-
quote :I’ve just been looking and used ones are few and far between, looks like I’m more than likely going to hold out a little while longer, I really cant justify the outlay.so if you were to buy a graphtec or similar then it is a salable item if you need to.
chris
Log in to reply.