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  • Robert Lambie

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    14 June 2007 at 10:39

    tie-its from b&q (large ones) are probably best, cheapest and quickest.
    if this was a permanent feature ide go against using foamex mate…
    anyway, nylon tie-its will outlast and be stronger than the foamex in a few weeks because the foamex will become brittle, so the ties are more than adequate.

  • Craig Brown

    Member
    14 June 2007 at 12:52

    If your customer doesn’t like the look of cable ties this fixing works well http://www.dtpsupplies.com/sign.php (image shows sign on a chain link fence) and it wouldn’t take must to knock up something similar yourself.

  • Ade Brown

    Member
    14 June 2007 at 14:46

    That’s the sort of thing i was looking for

    Just been on phone to them and they have minimum order quantity and there 70p each

    Thanks

    Ade

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    14 June 2007 at 16:26

    Hi ade try R.S from the link below and then type in cable tie mounts page two half way down i have used them a fair bit with no problems i usualy pop rivet to foam board 5mm for fixing to mesh or gates etc loads of other types to suit most things hope it helps

    http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/home. … ningUser=N

    Derek

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    14 June 2007 at 17:48

    Screw fix do a self adhesive cable tie mount, I have used them the stick well to foamex and cheaper than chips!

    http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro … id%3D70730

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    14 June 2007 at 19:29

    (not directed towards ade)

    maybe i dont have the correct attitude, but if a customer will only pay for the likes of a foamex sign. ide be damned if i was going to go out my way to find them an attractive fixing. "buy cheap, look cheap"

    i have seen the fixings craig linked to above, visually, they are a good idea, but like craig also says, easy alternative methods can be knocked up in no time.
    we use 2mm aluminum for fence signs. depending on the type of fence i sometimes even use channel on the rear bolting the channel to a "L" shaped angle, or 2mm strap of aluminum.
    if it was something like palisade fence ide use 2mm aluminium or dibond tech screwed directly to it.

    at the end of the day, if you use foamex with whatever type of fixing. a few months down the line a kid will pull it and the foamex will burst with little effort… the only thing left will be the fixing an a few bits of broken foamex. ๐Ÿ˜•

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    14 June 2007 at 21:58

    (not directed towards any one)

    Rob, I know you hate foamex, and have reason to, but it is a valid sign material, and price wise, can be a used if the client has a budget to adhere to, and is aware of its limitations, no reason why not, for a few pence extra, to make it look professionally finished.

    Peter

  • Gwaredd Steele

    Member
    15 June 2007 at 07:55

    I agree with both Rob & Peter. Whilst fomex is a good way of ‘keeping’ a customer, rather than him go elswhere to get it, it is bloody awful looking stuff!

    I did some lovely aluminium signs & sign trays for a customer a few years back & the place looked really smart. Then he goes & orders 3no. 6’x3′ white fomex signs & has them put on a horrible wobbly mesh fence. In an instant, it made the place look cheap & tacky, as they drew the attention away from the nice ali signs.

    So far, I’ve replaced two with diabond, as the fomex ones keep getting vandalised. I keep trying to get him to go with ali signs on posts, but hey, the customer is always right. ๐Ÿ™„

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    15 June 2007 at 10:53

    peter, im not knocking giving a nice finish to a sign. of course for pennies more adding the finishing touch to a sign is worth it. however, i always try and sell-up based on "value for money" before i let the customer winge about costs. educating the customer on the best materials for the job doesnt always work i agree, but like steele signs says, they may consider moving to the likes of dibond if you have managed to put any doubt about foamex on their mind. (more money in it for us, job looks better, and the customer stays happy)
    as i said before if they want to buy cheap, it will look cheap. the main point i was getting at is it will NOT last long.

    hiding tie-its isnt difficult… just drill 2 holes side-by-side 10mm apart, feed the tie-it through from the back and then back in from the face. all that is seen is a little bit of nylon strip…

    again, as i said above…

    quote :

    maybe i dont have the correct attitude

    what i mean is, if i stand trying to give my expert advice on signage to a customer, only for him to ignore it and say, "nah, just use the cheapest you have mate, i have a budget"
    my last concern is to source clever discreet fixings to hang his budget signs on fence. ๐Ÿ˜•

    keep the customer happy yes, but happy for what he is willing to pay you for!

    i dont know maybe its just me? ๐Ÿ˜• :lol1:

    .

  • Craig Brown

    Member
    15 June 2007 at 12:32

    IMHO you could start a whole new thread on the over use of foamex as an exterior signage solutionโ€ฆ so foam PVC, a Signmakers best friend or worst enemy?

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