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Digital Print vinyls on curtain siders is there a material?
Is there such a material, or is a good cast enough? Anyone given this a go? Thanks for any advice posted.
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Hi Cheryl,
their is a specific material for this. It would be a banner material you would need to use, but if you want the proper job then spandex (I’m sure there are other suppliers) do one for curtain siders, it’s due to the mechanical tension that they are under when done up. If I remember rightly it’s expensive and needs to be applied dry – we have had good results on the few jobs we’ve done.
Hope that helps
G
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i use apa vinlys cheryl apaspa.com 😀
nik
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Cheryl,
You must use a truck vinyl. Banner will NOT do the job. The only ones I am aware of come from Avery or APA.
We have digi printed on both and, although I was very dubious about it, they seem to be standing up to the rigours of life on a curtain.
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Would banner not work at all John? Is this due to the tension that it’s under?
G
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quote Gavin MacMillan:Would banner not work at all John? Is this due to the tension that it’s under?
No Gavin, it’s the adhesive. The polymers in the curtain affect it.
I was told that the adhesive on truck vinyl is designed to work with those polymers, and is the reason that even truck vinyl will only work properly on new curtains. On old ones the polymers have already migrated and there is nothing left for the adhesive to react to.
Apart from that, go and stand in a transport yard and watch the abuse that these things get. Heavy handling and opened and closed several times a day. It is completely different to a banner that gets reverentially rolled and unrolled three or four times a year.
Believe me, if Cheryl quotes a cheap price based on banner vinyl cost, she will end up having to go and re-do the job at her own expense with a material that cost three times what she quoted for.
It really isn’t worth it. 🙁
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I believe you! 😀 Never been sure, I remember being told about the tension when we done our first job on a curtain sider but never heard about the polymers. Maybe just aswell the few jobs we have done have been on new curtains!
G
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Nice one John and everyone…..really really useful advice as always, thank you to you all.
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im with john, never attempt to use banner vinyl on a curtain sider. it will shrink, peal etc in no time.
as has been said, APA do the most competitive priced truck vinyl, then its Avery from Cox. I know 3M do one but i think your getting into silly money for same.
whatever you get it printed onto you will need to liquid laminate for protection as i have never heard of truck vinyl coming in a clear for laminating.
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to be honest, I would not have been comfortable using a banner material. A long time ago I did lettering onto a curtain sider with material designed for the job, it stuck like nobodies business and was tricky to fit, so I know that there was one out there for that….but digital printed stuff….I turned a job away a couple of years ago because I just could not sorce the stuff….nobody seemed to want to do it…but with technology and materials moving on so much I rather hoped that I would be able to do on this curtain sider what I wanted to do and not have to compromise on the design. If customer goes with what could be a rather expensive option, I will let you know how it goes. Thank you again x
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You can get clear ink that I have used over digital printed curtains to laminate, not sure if this would work on vinyl.
Norman
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The other option is to have the curtain printed & made to order. I’ve done this for a customer a couple of times.I did post a picture on here somewhere…….
http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=10545
Andrew
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jJust had a look at Wardies previous post and would disagree with pricing,
We have just supplied a pair of printed curtains roughly 8m x 2.5m, liquid laminated, (but no buckles straps etc. – usually about £300) for £720 and we make a profit on that
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quote Wardie:The other option is to have the curtain printed & made to order.
Never an option Andrew.
Our customer’s don’t think that far ahead. They only consider the graphics AFTER they take delivery of the truck. 🙁
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quote John Childs:quote Wardie:The other option is to have the curtain printed & made to order.Never an option Andrew.
Our customer’s don’t think that far ahead. They only consider the graphics AFTER they take delivery of the truck. 🙁
but looking at phils prices, it would be an option to replace rather than add to the curtains
Peter
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Peter it really is a viable option, we did the sums based on Avery printable curtain vinyl, and if you were to do a complete wallpaper job it works out more expensive than printing a complete new set of curtains.
Add to this the punter can put his original curtains back on at the time of resale, he will sell his vehicle quicker probably and get a bit more for it which in a way helps offset some of his initial expense having them done.
It’s all a matter of sourcing the best materials at the right prices. -
We use the Avery FasFlex 3000 Curtain Film from spandex printed on our seiko colour painters with great results.
When fitting to curtain sided material you might consider using Avery Applifluid as the fasflex sticks like snot to a blanket. -
further to this thread, went for the whole curtains printed and fitted. Worked out profitable and it looks really nice, I am going to post the pic in gallery. Apollo did it for me.
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