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Cement and Vinyl
Posted by Harry Cleary on 18 February 2007 at 23:32I have to brush signwrite a lorry for a client who draws cement, he claims that the cement dust undermines vinyl and it eventually comes off. Does anybody know if this is true and if there is a vinyl that will stand up to cement?
Shane Drew replied 18 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 16 Replies -
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I don’t know the answer but I have a customer who is also a cement carrier and he INSISTS on painted signwriting. He will absolutely not accept vinyl. I’ve never asked why, but maybe he has had a problem such as you describe. I just use paintmask and paint it on.
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Cheers Andy, yeh he does ‘insist’ so he must have had a bad experience, I havent signwritten a truck in 2 yrs and there is that much writing and pinstriping on it, I could do with a few shortcuts. 😀
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The first thing that springs to mind is the large amount of heat that cement can give off. I could quite believe that it could affect vinyl. It’s a funny old thing, cement.
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Our cement trucks here are signed in vinyl, but I know there is an issue with the caustic cleaning chemicals they use to clean the trucks at the end of the day.
I think they got over that by changing to a non caustic chemical, because they are still using vinyl signs, and the trucks are washed every day.
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Hi
i have done 4 cement trucks over the last year in Oracle 751 without no problems to now. i will say that these had only just been painted when i signed them & they where sitting still for a week after being written.
So maybe it had a chance to bite on with out being subject to the cement heat & dustKev
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Thanks for the advice lads. Just spent the day pinstriping it, strewth!!! Signing it tomorrow.
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ive painted a good few barrels ,usually when they are shot blasted to remove old cement spills prior to repainting the surface is not’ too’ (for peter ) smooth enough for vinyl to bite
paint sticks like ……..
Have only put vinyls on the cabs
Terry
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thanks Terry, love the website btw, what do you use to protect the chalkboards?
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Hi Harry
Nothing goes on the chalkboards
had no problems inside or outUnless they’re sited under flower boxes with sprinklers
Terry
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quote Andy Gorman:I just use paintmask and paint it on.
Well I finished the truck and used ordinary vinyl as a mask for the phone numbers and circle thingy’s (will post pic in another forum) which didnt seem ideal as it was difficult to remove the mask, I want to get a roll of mask in stock for this purpose, what would you recomend for this Andy?
Thanks every one for your help, customer was delighted with this and more are in the pipeline, although I hate his layout. All those phone numbers and no mention of what he does! -
I bid on cement trucks once, and I was told that the barrels must be painted due to what they are cleaned with (some kind of acid)
Love….Jill -
I have done a few cement trucks over the last 3 years and had no problems
Cheers
Dave
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Cheers Dave and Jill, i think some plants wash with a caustic solution and that is what causes the problems.
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quote Harry Cleary:Cheers Dave and Jill, i think some plants wash with a caustic solution and that is what causes the problems.
Our bulk cement carriers here are painted with a few clear coats, and some of the cement trucks are too. Cement dust can destroy normal automotive paint in very short time.
As I said earlier, caustic chemicals are the key to the whole thing. 😕
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are they clear coated over painted signwritng and vinyl Shane?
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quote Harry Cleary:are they clear coated over painted signwritng and vinyl Shane?
Most are clear coated over the hand painted signwriting, yes. The vinyl ones are signed over the clear coat, so they can get replaced when needed.
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