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  • Help i’m new here. New cutter giving poor results!!

    Posted by Simon Sheridan on 20 October 2006 at 02:21

    Hi everyone, i signed up a while ago but never got round to posting.

    I need some advice on a cutting problem i have. I recently purchased a VectorX 1360mm cutter from Premiersign.co.uk But i am just not getting satisfactory results. we currently use a Roland cam24 which has been a real work horse and never missed a beat. I needed a large scale cutter but didn’t have the budget to go proper pro!

    I’m getting, poor cutting, fonts that should be straight point to point have rounded corners, i get nicks out of letters/shapes making them hard to weed. Ive tried, different blades (uses roland) pressure,speed, software(use Flexisign noramlly)

    Scanning these forums i thought it may be an offset problem, but i thought if the offset is off then i would get consistent problems but is doesn’t seem that way!

    Rather than me go on i have provided a link to a scan i took of some tests, with various notes written on it. Please please take a look its a large scan so ZOOM right in to see the vinyl and notes and you will have to pan around a bit also!

    Apologies for the long winded opening post and large image! 😳

    Cheers

    Si


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  • Tim Shaw

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 08:06

    looks as if the blade is tight in the holder and not spinning freely.

    The offset does look out a little,

    Tim

  • John Childs

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 09:42

    I’d look at the offset first.

  • Simon Sheridan

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 10:13

    Thanks for the replys,

    I have been talking with the supplier and he assures me that the machine can produce a quality cut. He has offered a full refund if need be also.

    If i cant change the offset on the machine or in flexi does it mean trying different blades? Its currently using 0.25mm

    So the holder maybe gripping the blade to tight, i can turn the blade in the holder just by lightly touching with my nail it will spin around.

    Many thanks again most appreicate your time.

    Simon

  • John Childs

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 10:48

    Simon,

    It should be possible to change the offset on the cutter, and I would always recommend doing it there rather than in software.

    If your cutter came with a 0.25 blade then you should check that that is what your machine is actually set to, and change it if need be.

    That’s your starting point, but be aware that sometimes they need a tweak to get the best results, so if you re not happy with the results then try adjusting the offset up or down a bit.

  • Phil Kneale – Graphtec

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 16:19

    If its definately not the offset, just check the plotter (or Flexi) is not in pen mode.

    Failing that, it looks like a loose head

    Phil

  • Alan Wharton

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 18:11

    i had a similar prob last year cutting a football logo out and i tried everything from reinstalling software to eventually formatting the pc, still the same, 😕 what i eventually found was it wasnt the software or the cutter it was the font and the logo itself when i blew it right up and checked all around the cutter was cutting exactly what was sent to it including all the bits you have that are not correct, its worth a look and blow your design/font right up and check you never know. 😉

  • JIM COUSINS

    Member
    20 October 2006 at 20:00

    i must add

    lower the speed to 30 ( or at least around that area)
    i had similar machine and i could only get decent results at LOW speed.
    set the force to 70 speed to 30 or lower and the blade to std 0.5 ( ish ) spec as in manual.
    always examine the design ( as mentioned above) and just try it .
    i found it didn’t like text below 15 mm high as it didn’t like the inside of letters that much.
    also that can depend on the quality of vinyl and the adhesive quality on the backing paper.

    hope this helps

    Jim

  • Simon Sheridan

    Member
    21 October 2006 at 20:45

    thanks for all the help, really appreciate it.

    Well, slow speeds dont make any difference, and i want a cutter like my Roland that can bang out fairly rapid designs.

    There is NO way to change offset although all the supplier has sent all my findings back to the manafacture and has also sent me out a different cutter to test (another asian make) to see how i get on with that. So now i have 2 to play with come monday.

    His also offered me a deal on a graphtec ce5000 120 but i have to think hard about the much larger outlay 😕 I know this will be fast/accurate and a work horse.

    Thanks again

    Si

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    21 October 2006 at 20:58

    As it happens you should not have to change the offset from the default, (for whatever blade/pen/tool you are using)
    I have never had to alter it on any of my 4 plotters, if the blade and cutting strip are in good condition all should be fine. If you need to alter the off set, its time to change the blade and/or the cutting strip.
    Do you have a choice of blade selection? like a 60 degree, perhaps you dont have an offset adustment, but a blade type choice, just wondering?

    Peter

  • Simon Sheridan

    Member
    21 October 2006 at 21:32

    As it happens Peter, as well as the other cutter i’m being sent to try his sending a few different blades with different offsets.

    we shall see 🙂

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    21 October 2006 at 22:09

    Thats what I was pointing out, the plotter must be able to choose the blade or offset, if you change the blade to a different offset, then there has to be a way to tell the plotter what it is? not being funny, but do you know what offset is, and why its needed? Its something that should be set at the machine rather than the software.

    Peter

  • Simon Sheridan

    Member
    21 October 2006 at 23:52

    No probs, the blade in the holder has a central point, but the cutting tip is off to one edge, so the offset is the distance between the centre point and the tip that cuts?? Only been in the game a few years but am i close 🙂

    This model of cutter doesnt have anyway to change off set of the blade which is 0.25 But i’m hoping there might be service menu hidden that the manafacture will enlighten us with 😕 And also am intriguged to see if the blades with different offsets give a better quality cut and the machine is therfore setup for a different offset blade.

    Also to add, artwork is fine cuts perfect on the roland as little as 5mil.

    Thanks

    Si

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