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what is the largest facia panel available?
Hi all
just been to look at a job for hair salon front facia,
It is 6mtr x 950mm drop
customer wants black with chrome.possibly stainless raised lettering.
whats the largest panel available don’t really want a centre join maybe large centre panel with two end pieces.
i will post a pic in portfolio of the first draft
any ideas and critics fire away font is customers choice (sniff) and they aren’t keen on it being lit or leds etc
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3050 x 1500 is about the largest dibond, I have heard of 4m but I doubt if you will find any thing 6m I suppose you could use a flexface sign though and fit an internal frame to hold the letters, dont know if this is pheasable just thinking aloud,
Joins are not usually noticed though, except by other signmakers.Peter
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I tried to source a 6M sheet of Dibond recently. No chance. They only make it to order with a minimum of 500 sheets, or something like that.
4M sheets are sometimes available. Not often though.
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thanks andy peter think it will have to be three pieces from to 3metre
sheets going to have to make sure the frame is spot on so it dont look out of sorts and i like the frame sure you can get freme lenghts that long to keep the panels straight ? -
I Am almost sure frame comes in 6m lengths, but if not its no problem to join if not. The frame will sag under its own weight though. So you will need to level it as you fit
:Peter
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Amari do 4mtr x 2mtr sheets in Reynobond, its becoming quite popular now, the rep was telling me. Not sure if it’s in colours though or just white.
Shouldn’t have too much trouble getting a frame in one piece, but remember about transporting it to the shop 6mtrs is a fair size.
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Derek
does it have to be Ali Composite panel, because i’m sure that Amari do 6mtr acrylic in limited colours. One problem could be that it wasn’t Amari who sent me the info but another supplier, i ‘ll check on Monday for you if acrylic is any good for the job.Kev
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trasnporting and weight when fitting are big isses for a sign this length.
if for some reason its not, join the sheets in house, transport and fit.
i did a 6 metre panatrim fascia by 50inches deep in one go just a few months ago. i constructed the frame like i did in the panatrim demo on this site, i slotted in the dibond and joined it using 3m vhb tape and some hidden screws on a panel stuck to the rear of the join. worked a treat and went up in no time. but… we had to use our biggest van to transport, (cherry picker holds 5 metres long then some hanging out back. we had 4 guys on two sets of tressles and catwalks. lifted it up in one go and sat it on a ledge i had made using "L" SHAPED angle. then fixed "around" the panatrim using more L shaped angle. once complete the small flat bits of the L shaped angle was painted black same colour as bulding.hope that made sense 😀
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Hi Derek, how did you get on with this particular job ? Did you manage to source a 6 metre piece of material or did you end up breaking the sign into sections.
I have just been asked to quote for a 6000mm x 900mm. The client has been quite specific in stating they don’t want any joins in the panel.The only solution I can think of is to have a local sheet metal company fabricate a 1mm / 1.5mm aluminium tray. This I’m sure would have to be made in two sections and welded and filled then sprayed. Finally it would be mounted onto a timber frame.
My only concerns are as mentioned by others, weight and transportation, which will be reflected in the quote.
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hi dave customer decided on a three section i steered him that way on advice from here.
thought about having a one off made but the transport and fitting costs were going to be too high
the quote is still on the table so fingers crossed i also gave him a print out of how it should look when finished and where the joins would be .
and how it would just be a line he thought it would show screw heads etc either side of the join maybe worth pointing this out to your customerDerek
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just an update the job is almost complete just a few bits to finish of
had a local firm manufacture and fit in three sections
customer over the moon used standoffs for the main logo and vinyl for the rest to keep costs down
have posted pic under soul hairdressers in
UKSB Members PortfolioDerek
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hi Derek your job looks like it turned out well, who did you use for the flat cut letters and how did you find them ?
The job I mentioned in this topic ( 6000mm x 900mm ) turned out to be a bit of a nightmare. Poor planning on my part. The Customer ended up changing his mind and requested a lightbox. Only problem was that light box had to be fitted into a recess and the face had to be flash with existing brickwork on the building. This meant I needed a 120mm deep front loading light box. . which I couldn’t get so I ordered a 6 metre slimline box from universal. This came in two 3m sections which were modified and joined on site. the whole thing was then lifted into place.
This is where I came a cropper, I completely under estimated the weight of the thing once assembled ( despite Robs warnings in an earlier post ! )
Lucky I was fitting on a Saturday so a quick phone call was made to round up a few extra pairs of hands.
Then once fitted I ran into the second problem. . the panel gap wasn’t alighning correctly giving a tight fit and the bottem and a 1/4 inch at the top.. suggesting that I hadn’t joined the two sections of the light box square. After a lot of adjustments and a second visit to the site I managed to get it sorted. . .
I guess i’ll put it down to a learning experience !
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quote Robert Lambie:lifted it up in one go and sat it on a ledge i had made using “L” SHAPED angle. then fixed “around” the panatrim using more L shaped angle. once complete the small flat bits of the L shaped angle was painted black same colour as bulding.hope that made sense 😀
I think i do panels were already in frame? what if you cannot get away with using angle ali around the edges and want to fix through back as normal how could a load of joins be done with vbh tape as you said Rob?
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