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  • applyed vinyl to van and its now all bubbles why is this?

    Posted by Brian Little on 15 July 2006 at 17:45

    hi folks …a bad day . i lettered a van today everything normal .I used macal 9800pro .Customer just phoned the whole job will have to be redone its all blistered up with the heat on the panels its roasting here today .Have i done something wrong here? I tried to cool the panals down with water but they were still hot .had to do it on site and there was no shade as such ….help 🙁 🙁

    stickeeee replied 19 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    15 July 2006 at 19:08

    Brian did you do it wet ?? 🙄

    Lynn

  • Brian Little

    Member
    15 July 2006 at 21:02

    ye i did lynn but it was so hot the water was just evaporating .The thing is it went on ok and seemed fine but this has happened about an hour after i was finnished 🙁

  • Kawy

    Member
    15 July 2006 at 21:10

    Was this a brand new van? Or was it by chance a freshly painted van?

  • Brian Little

    Member
    15 July 2006 at 21:14

    hmm theres a thing kawy .I heard of this problem before where if its not long been painted theres still chemical being released from the paint .The answer is yes its metalic red and not long painted

  • Kawy

    Member
    15 July 2006 at 21:19

    I would bet its from the paint. Especially if it has been buffed recently. I do work for a body shop at times, fixing damage artwork. I had to stripe a truck once, was told the truck was painted a week ago and baked. Layed my stripes down, looked great. Got a call the next day saying it had all bubbled up. Found out the truck was buffed the day before and the chemicals were still coming out. This is what caused all of the bubbling. I would bet that is what is your problem with this van. Bubbles don’t magically appear unless there is extreme heat, or gas coming from fresh paint.

  • Brian Little

    Member
    15 July 2006 at 22:26

    cheers Kawy 😀

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    16 July 2006 at 00:33
    quote Kawy:

    I would bet its from the paint. Especially if it has been buffed recently. I do work for a body shop at times, fixing damage artwork. I had to stripe a truck once, was told the truck was painted a week ago and baked. Layed my stripes down, looked great. Got a call the next day saying it had all bubbled up. Found out the truck was buffed the day before and the chemicals were still coming out. This is what caused all of the bubbling. I would bet that is what is your problem with this van. Bubbles don’t magically appear unless there is extreme heat, or gas coming from fresh paint.

    This happened to me recently too Brian. Called to resign the side of a bus at a repairer. Got there as they were driving it out of the oven.

    Suggested to the company that it may be a bit early, as the chemical reaction would still be in process, especially just coming out of the oven 😮

    The painter said that it would be OK as he knows ‘this trick’.

    I was not that confident as I was applying reflective material which does not breathe at the best of times.

    They insisted I do it anyway as the owner had been rung and was picking it up in two hours.

    I had not even got back to the office when I got the call 😕

    They took delivery of the bus anyway, and when I went back to redo it, the paint actually failed underneath the sign areas.

    Turns out the painter stuffed ‘the trick’ up, and actually slowed the curing process, and not sped it up like he thought. Heads rolled I’m told, but I’ve never been called back to work there since, so it seems I got the blame too. 🙁

    I’d leave the van for a week or so if the heat continues, it should have out gassed by then.

  • Brian Little

    Member
    16 July 2006 at 06:09

    cheers shane
    😀

  • Adrian Hewson

    Member
    17 July 2006 at 21:30

    Lets be careful out there, there is a problem with certain colours of 9800, I am not in the office at present so dont have my colour swatch but I think they end in an sp they are much thinner than the other colours and dont stick very well.

    We have an open case with Donna from Amaris Plastics (Glasgow)

    Regards Adrian

  • stickeeee

    Member
    17 July 2006 at 22:09

    I agree with shane. We applied some vinyl can’t remember which brand Mactac I think to some taxis in london a few years ago. Usual thing up quick sharp straight out the oven, hour later nasty rashing and blistering almost certain it had something to do with the paint not being able to breath.

    Watch out if you have to take it off as it can bring the paint with it (hot) no perfect answer to this secnario. Good Luck

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