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    Posted by Richard Urquhart on 23 May 2006 at 13:55

    hi all i have been and removed some graphics from a car shomroom window and cleaned glass with thinners to remove all traces of glue

    now the problem as the window changes in temp the glass shows signs of the old graphics
    i have seen this before on car screens
    is there a way to get rid of these marks that the vinyl has made on the glass

    Help rich (<( (<( (<( 😕

    Paul Franklin replied 19 years, 7 months ago 9 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Neill Hague

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 14:53

    This probably isn’t what you want to hear Richard but we experienced the same problem a few years ago on a car windscreen. No matter what we or the valeters used to clean the glass nothing would work, you could still see the message (in the rain). In the end the screen had to be replaced, luckily it didn’t cost us as we got the vinyl manufacturer & supplier to sort the cost with the dealer.

    Also happened when we applied a price down the side of a car, the guy who bought it wasn’t to happy when he came out one morning & saw £13,995 down the side of his car. Again we lgot the supplier to sort it with the dealer.

    Hope you get it sorted

    Neill

  • David Rogers

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 16:55

    Again – on glass there’s not a lot you can do.

    The ONLY way I’ve found is to polish it out with T-cut or similar. Takes flippin’ ages! Either a LOT of it on a sponge by hand or a proper buff.

    No amount of solvents will work. Trust me!

    For the sides of vehicles. In general I’ve found that it’s actually that the paint UNDER the vinyl has been protected from the elements and is more prone to water ‘beading’. Again, a good buff with a very light colour restorer type polish gets rid of nearly all of it.

    Dave

  • Marcella Ross

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 18:05

    Davids right, the only thing that will work is a mild abrasive polish, Tcut being a good example.

    Good luck 😮

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 18:38

    looks like the mop and compound will have to come back out
    its time like these im glad i kept all my old tools from my bodyshop
    thanks all
    rich 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 18:52

    There used to be a product for polishing out scratches on windscreens, It used to come free when you bought a new Jag. Dont know if its still on the market though, cant remember its name. I dont know if tcut is good for glass? maybe a bit course.

    Int olden days, before we could afford tcut, tin off brasso came out. dont know if this would work but its certainly worth a look at?

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 18:55

    if i am right, phill fenton had same problem a few years back.
    i remember he posted similar type question. a guy that used to visit the site back then from the USA had the answer… (at least the best answer to what nobody else seemed have an answer for)
    he said that vehicle windows all have a tint, when you apply a nice bright letter to it, it repels the suns rays and protects the glass area below, while the rest of the glass is exposed. over time the tint is very "slightly" lightened/bleached by the suns, whilst the area protected by the vinyl letters is not.
    once the letters are removed it reveals the light/dark areas, but more so in the rain as the sky is dull and the water plays a part in highlighting uv damage.

  • John Simpson

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 19:12

    Just spent a couple of hours this afternoon removing old vinyl off Indian take away window, took 45 Min’s to remove vinyl & hour & half cleaning off all the adhesive with glass scraper, tar & glue remover, thinners then meths to finish off. As the sun was shinning had same problem as Richard, still see the outline where old lettering was.
    Not too bad for me as new lettering gone on top so cannot see it now.

    L J

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 19:27

    Rob’s right – I had the same problem a few years ago and like Neill the car dealership ended up replacing the cars windscreen to keep the customer happy. (The next morning after she’d bought her car the condensation on the glass revealed to the world the ticket price of her nice shiny new motor – she was livid 😕 ).

    We never really got to the bottom of it – but it seems this memory effect on glass does fade away in time.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 19:50

    I had a customer a few months ago that asked for advice on the dreaded shop window showing up the history of the businesses…..washing-up sponge & jif as a quick, cheap, fast (but a little over abrasive) alternative Did the trick until she got bored & decided to live with it!

    Some people just won’t pay for a proper job! 🙄

  • Paul Franklin

    Member
    23 May 2006 at 21:34

    I’ve seen a ghosting on windows many a time after removing graphics from them and have wondered if it is anything to do with the fact that glass is actually a liquid and that windows are in sunlight causing something like the burning you get on PC monitors that screen savers are supposed to stop.

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