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any help would be appreciated??
hi there again peeps….. just wondering if anyone can help me on the best way for a sign i have to produce for a garage, my customer has 2 bays next to each other and has a knackered wood fascia above the 2 bays which measures 8 foot in height and 16 foot in width and wants the whole area covered with one sign and frame as he doesnt want the expense of replacing the fascia so my first thought was a frame with fomex boards as this is in his budget and fit 4 side by side in the frame but somehow i can see problems arising with this.not sure why just a bad feeling, i was trying to swing him over to a brand new facia with back lit built up letters but he wont or doesnt want that expense which is fair enough but can anybody shed any light on another idea for this size or can anyone forsee any problems with the frame and board idea?????????
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i have a similar job on at the mo, though not on such a grand scale, i have a builder remaking the facia vertical (currently at about 30 degrees overhang), i had planned to get him to replace the facia, and then i make my signs to fit on,
however, after a chat with the effervescent (what does that mean ? !) mr normington, i decided to get him to replace the facia framework, fit my ready cut alupanel/dibond type boards, and then remove them, all i then have to do is put the signs to the facia boards and fit them back up !
try and persuade your customer to have alupanel (the ali/poly sandwich board) as its only a tad more expensive, and can be screwed direct onto the framework behind, should work, i dunno if the top frame rail would take the weight of four foamex sheets hanging off it !
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thanks hugh, sounds a good idea just gotta see if he will accept it, will post you a pic tomorrow to see the state of it i am thinking the sale myself just getting him to replace it 🙁 thanks though anyway
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This is not an unusual request. I have almost lost count of the number of times I have been asked to quote to supply and fit a sign to a rotten fascia. If the fascia wood is rotten – what are you hoping to attach the sign to? This is not your problem – but what do you do in six months time when the sign comes down in the first high wind. He’ll blame you for it.
The answer is to advise your client that the fascia is rotten and needs to be replaced. Any sign attached is only as good as the underlying surface. If he refuses to have this fixed – then if the sign falls down (which it will) you will not be responsible.
Only do this job if you have made these facts clear to your client.
Honestly – why do so many people think that the answer to having structural defects in their shop front fascias is to get a new sign fitted 🙄
Sorry to be so negative – but I have come across this exact scenario on a number of occasions. You must make it clear to him that you are merely supplying and fitting a sign – not repairing his rotten fascia 😕
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i was assuming the framework behind is ok, and that the customer wants a sign instead of a fascia ?
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I know that’s what you were saying Hugh – But that wasn’t what Bob was asking 😕
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aye, think i’ve jumped head first into so many threads today that i should have a headache !
i’d get abuilder to quote for any repairs and add that into the quote as extra.
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thanks people for the replies, to be honest i havent got up and looked but as its flaky and warped its probably a fair guess its gonna be a bag o poo 😕 think i will have to give him my mechanic scratchin my chin and sucking in air look see how he likes it 🙄 fair point i never actually thought of that gotta do his van first next week so will actually get up the ladders and see if the wood looks like a net curtain, thanks anyway i appreciate any help on this 😛
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quote Phill:The answer is to advise your client that the fascia is rotten and needs to be replaced. Any sign attached is only as good as the underlying surface. If he refuses to have this fixed – then if the sign falls down (which it will) you will not be responsible.I’m 100% with you on that Phil,
I had a blinder last year, the old sign was hanging off where the wood behind it was so rotton, but the guy still thought it would be no trouble to fit a new one to it. What is it with these people 😕Rob what ever you do don’t use foamex at this size thats a blowout for sure.
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cheers martin, was thinking that too 8 foot depth 4 foot width x 4.no chance the more i think there is no stability there whatsoever, gonne have to talk him round to a spankin new fascia and maybe go straight onto that and build maybe a built up a frame and fit a big sign tray.hmmmm, anyway he speak with fork tongue just been and measured it and its actually 24 foot x 8 foot……..the headache deepens :headbang2:
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How about approaching the job with a large format banner in mind i know in edinburgh there is a shop down from where i live that has an 8ft by 22ft banner stretched across a light box and this has a brilliant effect and i am sure this would save on the headache
Craig
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i saw that recently at a car dealerhsip, they changed their car range (no longer rover !) and there was a big light box up all weekend, coldnt work out why the front wasnt on it, then on the monday i caught them sliding a huge transluscent banner into it, very taught when finished, so much so, you wouldnt know it was a banner. it’s very effective, only 600mm deep though, i dunno how a 2.4m deep banner would not be taught enough not to have a fair bit of movement in high wind.
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