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ahhhh pc60
hi all the time i think has come looks like one of the pins in my pc60 head has blown
need a replacement head supply or supply and fit ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
can any one help asap
thanks rich pulling hair out -
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the head is available from roland stockests only cost about £200 inc vat ?.
plus fitting .have you tried cleaning paper ? are the missing print lines reguarly spaced ?
chris
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its like a tiny thin line same place every time all colours and not where each band of ribbon joins
do you think its the head i did give it a good cleani had a look at setting the voltage etc so do you think i should just have a go at fitting it myself???
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chris cleaning paper whats that ???
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there is a special cleaning paper however !
take a old black cart and cut the ribon wind the two ends in.
put this in instead of the good black cart.
load a new clean piece of a4 paper must be uncoated – not glossey.print a black square about 2 ins square i know it wont lay any ink .
but will clean up the head if it was dirty in the first place .
this i think is more forse full than the roland way
replace black cart and try again.chris
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chris thanks mate will give it ago tomorrow
i have the service note think igot them from you ages ago
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rich, if all else fails mate, give this guy: Ken McNight
he now uksg official tech guy on this sort of thing and specializes in roland machines. ive used him years now… very good and special rates for full uksg members like yourself. if nothing else he will be able to tell you if its blown. -
sounds good rob thanks for that
although im in surrey would they still come to me???
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i couldnt say mate, sorry… he does travel further but i guess there would be charges. i would give him a call anyway, if he cant help im sure he may know someone who can.
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as you are mechanically minded the fitting is not difficult but a little fiddly but to get the best out of the new one takes a age of setting up and a top dollar volt meter required. roland used to charge 180 for fitting.
how many used roland carts do you have must be rolands.
chris
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think i will do it if i have to get a new one
as for volt meter thats not a prob the guys downstaires have snap on erery thing so should be fine as for setting up after installed i will have to do my bestchris do you know if its a must to get the wiring harness to connect the volt meter???
also do you know where the screw that adjusts the voltage is
i have read its on the main board but not sure where that is ???? -
if dismantling anything like this, i take digital pictures before i touch it, print them off and begin work, just incase im left with a few screws when i reassemble. 😮
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rob what you like
you know im nothing like that although after 15 years putting cars back on the road i never knew where i got that box of screws from !!!!!!
well 2 boxes !!!!
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rich i have the harness i could lend you but if i remember you dont really need it on the 60 but doing the voltage is really the easy bit.
chris
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just like to say thanks to chris today for his help
i will let you know how the head change goes tomorrow as its now on its way from roland 😀 😀 -
quote Chris Wool:rich i have the harness i could lend you but if i remember you dont really need it on the 60 but doing the voltage is really the easy bit.chris
You do need the harness, It was a while back when I did mine. Not difficult if you got the written instructions. You could have used mine but I havn’t a clue where I put them 🙄
The volt meter must show 3 decimal places if my memory serves me right.
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hi mike voltage all sorted i put the voltmeter on the center pin and right pin before stripping old head off
got a reading of 24,35 head should have been set to 24,64 but I’m told after some time it could change
when i get the new head tomorrow I’m all go to set it upthanks
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good for you richard…hope it all goes well 😀
nik
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well good news the pc60 is up and running again
not to many probs settng up prints fine and im happy but and as you know theres always a butim getting what look like small bits of clear materials being left on the cleaning pad and sometimes a little left on the head
its very soft looks like is comesof the ribbon once its been layed down on the vinyl
like the backing of the ribbon any ideas why this is ???
thanks
chris i bet your sick of my voice but you have been a great help
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Is it possible that the heads are getting hotter now you have fitted new ones, I know with the Edge with some foils the backing will stick if its to hot.
Nick.
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on a gerber edge.. if you change the heads you need to calibrate the voltage perfectly or risk loosing the head.
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think its something like that bit of a pain if it happens half way through a print
the old head was 24 volts new head 27 volts maybe its is hotter and im using printone ribbons not rolands
it did say on the box the head came in to change the firmware but i have been told if you update the firmwear then the pc60 starts to burn through the ribbond if using copy ones -
set the voltage to exact match 27.22 volt as on top of head
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can you not set it to print lighter or darker which would be cooler and hotter, (on the Edge anyway)
Nick,
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not to sure mate shame as its printing well
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update on new head
print work was going well got over a problem with using printone ribbons with new head settings using Roland carts ah more money but better cmy prints
any way printed about 3 number plates and 10-15 logos and bang the head packed up well not altogether
but a nice line in the print sent the head back to Roland after a few emails and they tested the head and found it to be faulty !!!
any way what can i say Roland sent a new head same dayso thanks to Roland and when i get time this week another head change
rich
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well done rich, just caught up on this there must have been some but thats the first time ive heard of a new head going quickly.
i also have the bits left behind with printone ribbons so wont use them its mucked up more prints than i saved but i am sure there is a answer from printone they wasn’t that interested when i said i wont buy any more because.
i still have to keep my pc 60 cos of a few customers and i mainly use roland black carts and a few spot colours from thermal products.
you only have to change the firm ware if older than a certain versionenjoy
chris
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Rich, make sure that you set the voltage to the new head and not copy the old one.
I don’t know how long you have had your machine but you must clean the vinyl immediately before printing with Isopropanol as the tinyest speck of dirt can ruin your head.
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sure will no probs
i see print one are selling this Isopropanol may be i should get some
rich
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