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font help
Posted by Myles Brewer on 10 January 2006 at 23:35John Childs replied 19 years, 6 months ago 9 Members · 35 Replies -
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yeah it’s certainly very similar but it dosn’t have the cut out bits
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I know its from the family typeface but i don’t have access 2 it. ill have a look for you there is like 20,000 font to go through .
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http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=16690
Myles look at this it may help or if Lorraine is around she may
Lynn
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quote wannousnancy:ill have a look for you there is like 20,000 font to go through .
ye i know the feeling nancy 😀
nik
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Myles.
No luck yet
U can always create the lines with offset path in illustrator -
how would you create those with offset path, would you offset one inwards, and then duplicate it and use the pathfinder to knock it out?
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Thanks Lynn, just checked that out , it’s definately the same but dont think she managed to get the file, i really need it as i have to copy lettering onto other side of van after damage respray.
& thanks wannousnancy, any help will be very much appreciated
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After creating fonts to outline yes
Click < Object <Path < Offset Path.
Then use Pathfinder or divide objects below. there is a lot of ways. -
Wannousnancy,
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Myles, this may sound obvious, but we do a lot of repair work.
Phone the owners of the vehicle, and ask them for the number of their sign makers. 9 times out of 10 when you phone them, and explain that you are doing a repair job (for your client) they will quite happily email the bit you need.
Sometimes though you may get an idiot who thinks that you are stealing his work.
If all else fails, do a rubbing and/or take a better picture and trace/vectorisePeter
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Ok, think peter may have the best solution & if that fails it may be just as easy to re do van allover as it’s hardly a lot of vinyl is it??
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Myles, if it for an insurance bodyshop repair, and you dont get the co-operation of the original sign maker, just do it in the nearest match font.
insurance will be happy, and in the unlikely event that the owner notices the difference, the bodyshop just explains that his signman would nor co-operate. Only do the one side though, trust me no one will notice.
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peter,
not insurance job but your right , nobody can see both sides at once so similar font would proberbly do , i have something like but not as thick, it’s just i’m a taurus so tend to be a bit of a perfectionist & like to get it right if i possibbly can, will try original signwriter tommorrow if i can. thanks -
Nancy enjoy your lunch were off to bed nite nite
Lynn
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Nancy,
have a nice lunch, hope you havn’t gone fontblind!! & thanks for the help
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Lunch was good i had Subway.
I agree with Peter. Caslon is a match.
No problem I’m glad to help well i didn’t really this time next time will be better.
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quote wannousnancy:Lunch was good i had Subway.
I agree with Peter. Caslon is a match.
No problem I’m glad to help well i didn’t really this time next time will be better.
😀Sorry Nancy what was the Caslon bit about??
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Caslon is one type face i saw and i though it was close match.
Nancy
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Gotcha, i’ll have a look for that then , anyway time for bed now , getting a bit late here, cheers
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Sorry Nancy, I disagree, Caslan is much more open. Myles, I never did find the text I needed, although it was sure as hell the same as you are looking for.
Fortunately I only needed the 3 letters, which I used the Bodini fonts for, and drew the ‘open’ lines myself. Bit more difficult with yours.
‘What the font.com’ didn’t come up with the correct one either.
I’d do as suggested, and get customer to phone previous signers.
Good luck 😕
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The font is “Bodoni Highlight”. I think I have it somewhere, ill look when i get a minute…
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yeah lorraine, coslon is a bit too thin as are the rest i have, ta anyway
Andrew, thanks also . would be great if you do. i’m out for the day so will check thisevening to see if you had any luck , cheers
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just searched & Googled, Bodoni Highlight only available to purchase….
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Hi Myles,How r you today. Do you have access to a better photograph i can add the highlights for you working from the BODONI BOLD text. Ill do it now and wont take me long 30 minutes max. Let me know.Nancy
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Myles,
That’s a free font site i use and new fonts r always on look and browse you never know might find something
http://www.absolutelyfonts.com/abfonts/html/b3.htm
Nancy
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Myles,
That’s a free font site i use and new fonts r always on look and browse you never know might find something
http://www.absolutelyfonts.com/abfonts/html/b3.htm
Nancy
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I’ve just come across this thread whilst searching for something else.
quote Peter Normington:Sometimes though you may get an idiot who thinks that you are stealing his work.That could well be me Peter. I regularly get requests for artwork and I know fine well that they ARE trying to steal my work.
With a big fleet there are usually one or two branch managers who try to be clever and think that they can get their own branch vehicles done cheaper by their local man. Well, they can – it’s dead easy. Firstly their local man will not have invested the hours that I have in setting the job up and secondly they will invariably be using inferior materials or techniques. Sometimes they don’t even use the right colours, close but not right.
Often, when we have refused to part with artwork, they will want to order a complete vehicle kit, and we have heard all sorts of reasons why they would need graphics for a vehicle which, if it needs that much of a repair should probably be written off. We know fine well that they only want to copy it, check what vinyl we have used etc etc.
We have one client who was doing a re-brand and they had their own font designed at vast expense. I had competitors on the phone asking for a copy "for an accident repair" before any vehicles to the new design had even gone into service!
Even if they are genuine, we can spend a considerable amount of time in setting up a system for supply of parts for accident damage repair and a bit of expense with things like facilities for credit card payments (which we would otherwise not need) so we will not willingly let someone local do it.
If everything is above board there should not be a problem. All the end user, bodyshop or even another graphics company has to do is pick up the phone, tell us what panels they are repairing and give us a credit card number. The stuff will be with them, often, depending on what time they call, the next day.
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John,
I often buy the decals from the original provider, if its going to be easier quicker and cheaper than copying. But although above board, some suppliers (very few) will not co-operate. I always phone the owners of the vehicle first, and explain why I want to contact their signmaker. Usually the owner is a small to medium business, and its then their choice to decide if they want to have the van completed and returned to them or have the van back minus the livery. I always offer to pay for the part of the artwork I need,
Only last week I requested a set of decals for the rear of a van.
The signmaker had no problem supplying, but needed a week to do so.
Part of the set was a print, so to replicate would have been difficult anyway. The customer got his van back incomplete, with the inconvenience of having to arrange his own sign repairs, and charge the insurance company.In the case of large fleet users, BT etc. they specify how, when and how much they will pay for a repair, specifying type off parts and authorised suppliers, so "pattern parts" don’t come into the equation. Larger fleets will also provide the signage to the repairer.
Some signmakers may think you are going to steal their customer by repairing the van, but if they are unwilling to provide either artwork files or decals, then with the permission of the owner or repairer I will replicate, and in doing so charge appropriately.
I was not inferring that looking after your own interests is idiotic,
but people who are unwilling to help out, may only upset their customer anyway.
I hope I have explained my earlier reply a little better,Peter
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Oh yes, if the original signmaker won’t even sell you the decals then you have no alternative but to copy the job as best you can, and charge accordingly. No argument from me there.
I don’t find that being unwilling to provide artwork upsets my customers at all. Quite the opposite – they are pleased that I don’t do it. A lot of them have given me the contract to supply their livery, both for new vehicles and accident repair, because they are fed up with having bits and pieces done in different places and all looking slightly different, which does nothing for their carefully nurtured corporate image. They have gone to quite a bit of trouble in selecting a reliable supplier and don’t then want any old muppet doing their vans.
As for having the van returned with no livery, this shouldn’t come in to it. I know it happens all the time but it is because the repairer does not order the decals in time. They order the new body panels and won’t even book the vehicle in until they have them, so why do they leave the graphics until the day before the vehicle is due to be collected?
A vehicle has an accident. It takes a week for the assessor to inspect and authorise repairs. It takes a second week to obtain the body panels and parts. It takes a third week to carry out the repair. And then they start thinking about decals. They are the achitects of their own downfall and I hate it when they try to pin the blame onto me.
Although we can get replacement decals out fairly quickly, next day in most cases, it irks me that we should have to rush around to do that just because of a lack of planning by someone else.
I don’t doubt that you are above board Peter, and you are one of the very few that I would consider letting have artwork, but I have had too many people try to con me to make it a universal service.
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