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  • pc60 or Cutter – recommendations / opinions?

    Posted by julie purdie on 2 November 2005 at 15:48

    Hi,

    Just wondering if i should buy a pc60….seems like it will be ideal for my needs. I am not sure if all the spare parts and equipment to use the machine is readilly available as the machine is discont. by roland…opinions please…also there is mention that when it prints…

    ‘it had new heads fitted then the print test (shown in the picture )has faint lines on it, so you may have to calliberate the heads’…that is what the seller say… does that sound dodgy? or likely..

    thank you

    julie

    julie purdie replied 19 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 16:55

    Sounds dodgy.

    If there are lines in the print is usually a sign that the head has packed in (usually one pixel wide not printing on every pass).

    If it really is a calibration issue as the seller suggests – ask them to calibrate it and send a test print.

    These machines are relatively cheap second hand so may be worth considering if you want to print small decals or spot colour labels. Too expensive to run if you want to print large images.

    There is talk that parts may be difficult to get in future – if you are buying one it may be worth buying a spare head while they are still available.

  • julie purdie

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 17:26

    thanks…

    also i have found a pc600 with 12mths warrenty, 10 coloured ribbons for £3890 plus vat …is this a good price, and machine for bigger prints?

    thanks in advance

  • julie purdie

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 17:54

    thinking about it ….that is more than i want to spend. Around how much is it for a new head for the pc50….and where do i find one?? also which programme works best with it.

    thanks

  • Kevin.Beck

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 18:50

    for £4k you are not far off the price of a gerber edge.

    a much far better machine.

    the only time a pc600 beats the edge is in fine detail.

    i`ve had both, the roland went, the gerber still remains.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 19:30

    can you tell us exactly what it is that you will use it for?
    what size will it need to print most of the time?

  • julie purdie

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 19:59

    hi,

    Well…I will mainly be cutting vinyl …for lettering at around 6 -10″ tall..for window displays and for putting inside machines at my arcade…along with characters ..ie winnie the pooh..i’m not sure how..because i dont have a programme yet (corel draw free trial didn’t run) but….you can get winnie cut out in different coloured vinyl shapes and then rearrange him to make the whole form…?? around half a metre to a mere tall….that is what i’ve been told i can do with ths machine. I really dont want to spend 4k, if i could get away with the pc50 that would be great…i dont know though…as i really dont have the first clue. 🙁

  • julie purdie

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 20:02

    sorry….and i would like to be able to print some posters off too(for inside the cranes etc) around 60cm tall by 30cm on average…but would probablt cut most characters as i’m guessing its cheaper ..
    thanks

  • julie purdie

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 20:06

    not pc 50….pc 60….i am losing it 👿

  • Cheryl Tissington

    Member
    2 November 2005 at 21:36

    Hi Julie,

    welcome to the boards.

    For around £1000 you can buy brand new cutters that cut up to about 590mm wide. It would be brand new, simple to start off with and come with a proper guarantee.

    It would also come with a simple, entry level software package that you could get to grips with easily and buy coreldraw from anywhere at your leisure.

    Then you could buy a small selection of vinyls from a supplier to start off with. Most will sell you just a few metres at a time. Some for a low as £1 metre.

    As for doing posters, most of the plotters come with a pen facility that traces the image onto paper instead of cutting vinyl. You can get different coloured pens to fit into the blade holder.

    For less than £1500 you would be up and running within a week or so.

    If you wanted to go into the printing side, outsource to start off with. Find your market without spending too much money. I have all my printed work done by someone else at a cost of £17 per m.

    I wouldn’t dream of tying up thousands of pound unless I knew the market was there. If you spend around £1500 to start up, it will pay for itself within a few months. Everything after that is Profit !

    Someone once said to me – “Don’t Starve – Sell !”

    Good Luck

    Best wishes,

    Cheryl 😀

  • julie purdie

    Member
    3 November 2005 at 08:11

    thank you for your advise

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    3 November 2005 at 11:17

    I just bought a fully serviced PC600 with brand new heads for GBP 1200 , thats what they are worth today. the PC60 would be a lot less. I wouldnt pay more than GBP1000 for one.

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    3 November 2005 at 11:22

    And the GBP 1k would be for one in ABSOLUTELY perfect condition with guaranteed heads.
    The running costs of this machine are horrendous.

  • julie purdie

    Member
    3 November 2005 at 23:23

    surely not…?? i am well confused…I thought pc600’s usually go for around £4000! …someone please ….whats an average price? as i am negotiating with someone at the moment and i thought i had a cracking deal…?? but it isn’t for £1000?

  • John Singh

    Member
    3 November 2005 at 23:32

    I’ve seen them been offered at around £2,000

    Hear what Rodney is saying about the printheads going and the cost to renew plus the printing costs to you (not the customer)

    From what I hear from those who have them or those who had them: It’s a fine machine if you are doing small runs but not for larger bulk projects

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    4 November 2005 at 02:30
    quote julie purdie:

    sorry….and i would like to be able to print some posters off too(for inside the cranes etc) around 60cm tall by 30cm on average…but would probablt cut most characters as i’m guessing its cheaper ..
    thanks

    i would suggest a vinyl cutter only then. brand new 610 one will cost you under £1000 with optical sensor.
    anything you want to printed at that sorta size you can order in very cheaply. there are dozens of folk on the site with versacamms and cadets that will do you a trade price for prints this size.

  • julie purdie

    Member
    4 November 2005 at 09:16

    thanks for all your opinions…I will have to do some serious thinking now.
    😮

  • julie purdie

    Member
    4 November 2005 at 09:32

    can someone please advise the make and model of cutter that i should be trying to find. thanks guys…(mod-edit)

    greatly appreciated

    julie

  • Cheryl Tissington

    Member
    4 November 2005 at 13:42

    Julie,
    check you message box….I’ve just sent you some info.

    Cheryl

  • julie purdie

    Member
    4 November 2005 at 16:05

    thanks a lot cheryl….your a star !! 😉

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