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    Posted by Chris Stansfield on 11 October 2005 at 10:53

    Two pictures from a recent project at a local school who now has science college status and wanted to update the look of the school to reflect this.


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    Lee Ballard replied 20 years, 1 month ago 12 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    11 October 2005 at 12:14

    nice work chris, thats a fair size ol cherry picker !!!

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    11 October 2005 at 15:46

    and a nice lot of glass to drop tools on……. lol

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    11 October 2005 at 16:28

    Nice Job Chris.
    Is that you up there or are you the lucky one taking the photo?

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 13:24

    nice work mate, looks good!

    regarding the banner pinned to the wall. im just product testing some banner rail i have bought in. its perfect for this sort of thing. many possibilities with it, best thing is they maybe becoming UKSG supplies. watch out for product test feature. 😉

    regarding cherrypicker… i bet you had a struggle getting the bucket in close enough to get the fixings in at lower right-ish of the banner? 😕

    post signs look nice and tidy too mate well done..

    constructive crit on the post signs, ide have dropped all the text about 80% in size and used smaller/different arrow.

    all looks good anyway and thank you for taking the time to post your work 😉

  • Lee Ballard

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 20:35

    Nah, just angle forward and lay on the frame.

    Used to deliver and train operators on cherry pickers so have taken them to all sorts of positions.

    Welding to Gorilla cage roof at the local zoo was a good demonstration, cage was taken to almost 90 degrees 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 20:39

    Lee,
    how do you mean angle forward I never came across a cage that can be legally moved from the vertical?
    Peter

  • Chris Dowd

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 21:10

    Like you Peter, never heard of that one!

    Certainly not an operation demonstrated by any iPAF trainer anyway!

    Just an observation on the cherry picker pic…. not a safety harness or any PPC in sight??

    Chris.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 22:35

    I for one have no intention of ever wearing a “safety Harness” when using a cherry picker (I have my own reasons for making this decision and believe I have a right as an individual to make that choice).

    I hate this “nanny state” we currently have whereby increasing legislation tells us what we can or can’t do. Having said that, Its a big “moneyspinner for “training companies” 😉

    With the current health and safety legislation we have in this country I am suprised that we still have an army and navy. 🙄

    For goodness sake – in a war situation someone might get killed or seriously injured. Isn’t it about time the authorities in this country did something useful and instead of burdening small business with all this H&S nonsense – they banned the use of force and military intervention in places such as Iraq.

  • Marekdlux

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 22:43

    Oh come on Phil, tell us how you really feel. 😉
    -Marek

  • Gordon Forbes

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 22:47

    Phill you as you say have a right in your own opinion to wear or not to wear but now a days you don’t get the option.
    When working at a height of over 2m a device must be worn to arrest a fall blah blah This of course will be in your pre job risk assesment covering HSE obligations blah blah blah.
    I’m not havin a go at you or anything like that but if unlikely and unfortunate circumstances do happen and you get hurt or an employee or third party. I litigation I think you will find that your insurance company will think different in a pay out as they will look for someone to blame and reduce the payout accordingly or if at all.

    Just the way things are going they say this is there to protect employee’s but it works both ways and if the HSE get involved at any point you better have your paperwork sorted to comply with puwer and loler legislation.

    Goop

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 23:05

    You’re right In what you say Gordon but in reality the current systems that are put in place are inneffective.

    Only today an Oil rig worker was airlifted to Aberdeen having lost a hand in an unfortunate accident. No doubt there will be a full investigation and the company involved will no doubt be able to produce “risk assesment” documentation” that absolves them from any blame – however, the poor b@stard still lost his hand and no amount of documentation will bring it back.

    The problem I have with current H&S legislation is this insistance on documentation. Common sense is never mentioned.

    Every one is treated as the same regardless of the fact that some people are just plain stupid and thick and are a danger to themselves and everyone around them – whereas there are quite a good few individuals in this country that have enough common sense to look after themselves and others in a responsible manner 😀 –

  • Chris Dowd

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 23:07

    The important words here are Health and Safety.

    I would never allow any employee of mine to ever even get into the cage of our cherry picker without a harness properly worn, adjusted and connected, and adequate PPC, furthermore all our fitting staff have iPAF licenses for all categories of MEWP’s.

    A full day of training for four staff for less than £500, a small price to pay, knowing that I can sleep at night in the knowledge that my staff have adequate training and equipment to do their job as safely as possible, and in the unlikely event that anything should go wrong, we as a Company have taken all steps to ensure the safety of our staff.

    You can’t cut corners when you have other peoples lives in your hands!

    Chris

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 23:13
    quote Phill:

    whereas there are quite a good few individuals in this country that have enough common sense to look after themselves and others in a responsible manner 😀 –

    :appl: :appl:

    the last time a h&s officer came to me….they said, (the very day we were printing a large solid with white matt vinyl ink…the most smelliest of inks) 😕

    do you know you should go out and get some air 😮

    nik

  • Chris Dowd

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 23:15

    Phil,

    Perhaps you local HSE officers have a different approach in the north, on Thursday I attended a full day’s H & S seminar, and our local officers certainly made lots of references to Health and Safety being common sense.

    Chris.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    22 October 2005 at 23:35

    In that case I would suggest that all risk assement documention should simply contain the line :

    “no idiots should do this job – only those individuals who possess some semblance of common sense”

    Jobs done – I’m covered 😛

  • Lorraine Clinch

    Member
    23 October 2005 at 01:15

    Ah, but who’s to say that you have more common sense than the next person Phil?
    Everyone interperets things in their own way, and acts accordingly.
    That is why every thing is laid out as though we’re all thick-so there are no mistakes. (oh yeah!)

  • Lee Ballard

    Member
    24 October 2005 at 13:14

    Maybe cages have changed in recent years but the older genie models and I’m pretty sure the JBL models had full cage movement. Harnesses were always recommended.

    As for not operating at angles, sometimes it’s the most cost effective way (without very complicated scaffold), its ultimatly up to the operator what he/she does but whilst I knew how to train people to HSE guidlines, I also knew if they needed to get somewhere specific they were gonna do it weather the guidlines were followed or not, I merely explained the safest way to do it, if they were going to anyway.

    Not a recommended practice nor condoned but then if someone is gonna do summat daft, I’d rather thay did it safely and with a harness.

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