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can anyone help with PCUT 630 & Signlab problems please?
Trying to run signlab with new Pcut 630 and can’t get signlab to drive the cutter. Cadlink have been of no use in helping to resolve the problem and everybody seems to want to put the problem in somebody elses yard.
Anyone with suggestions would be helpful. Email (mod-edit) please read board rules! admin@uksignboards.com
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You should be able to use any hpgl based driver but there is a specific Creation PCUT driver in SL7 and can also be downloaded off of Cadlinks website. The Standard HPGL should also work if you dont have the Pcut driver.
The only known issue with PCUT machines is that you need to move the cutting head to the LEFT side of the vinyl instead of the right side as with most cutters.
What is happening? Are you getting errors in Signlab or on the cutter?
Is your com port set for 9600,n,8,1,hardware or xon/xoff?
Do you have any other cutter and are you able to cut to it from THIS computer on THIS com port?
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Do you have an older PCUT machine that might be a DMPL machine instead of an HPGL machine? Do you have Artcut and can you cut to it from ArtCut? What driver do you use in ArtCut if you can cut from there.?
Is ArtCut on the same machine?frank
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Thanks for reply Frank.
Have downloaded PCUT drivers from website, but it already said they were there.
Have also tried using standard HPGL to no avail.Have put cutting head to left also.
Not getting any errors.
Com port set as you said, xon/xoff. Have also tried with hardware.Had an older cutter that gaveup on me but was using Com 1.
Artcut will work the cutter fine, but all my work is in Signlab.
Signlab said that as far as they are concerned the software should be working and if it isn,t it must be my computer thats the problem!!
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Maybe you have one of the DMPL machines.
I would try installing the Ioline 5000 DMPL driver from Install drivers.
Its more or less a generic DMPL driver.
Make sure to set the com port in plotter setup.I have Artcut 2002
What driver do you use in ArtCut?
I can easily make a drive to match its output.frank at cadlink
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Think there is a post somewhere else about this if you do a search on the baords.
There are quite a few people out there running P-Cuts from Signlab even much older versions of Signlab. To be fair to Cadlink it’s really down to the supplying dealer to help you out as far as setting up your plotter. That is after all what the dealers are there for. They have done there bit by recently adding a driver. And it definately does work! Probably something really simple…
What cable are you using?
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Not sure if this is helpfull but.
I have been tinkering with PCUT drivers for a couple of years now with all kinds of twists and turns.
The original machines i dealt with (2 years ago) would only cut from Artcut as Artcut seemed to send a secret string of about 50 charachters to the plotter
“01234567898765432101234567890987654321 etc”
It seemed there was secret communication between the cutter and the software so that only ArtCut could talk to it. And , intercepting the output of Artcut showed the machine used DMPL and not HPGLAbout a year ago , pcut machines started showing up without the secret string, but they had either HPGL roms or DMPL roms and you didnt know which. Lately, all the pcut machines seem to be plain HPGL with the origin on the Left side of the vinyl instead of the right.
So, assuming its NOT a communication issue, it may depend on the exact model/date/version/age of the cutter.
We never managed to get a driver going for the secret string cutter.
But we were trying it long distance with a dealer a florida. We never had the cutter in house.What i really need is a contact with the manufacturer (i think its in asia) who can provide complete languge specs for all thier machines (new and old)
Having said that, it seems many people have no problem with new machines sending HPGL.
frank at cadlink
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Have now tried with DMPL drivers. No go.
Driver in Artcut is ( I assume) PCUT CTN630.(not sure)
I was told that it might be the firmware in the cutter that has changed? so that the drivers might not be ok.
If you could make a drive to match output that would be brilliant.
Will perhaps go back to software dealer and ask for help there, but they were at a loss.
I am using serial cable as supplied with cutter, it works ok with Artcut 2002 though.
What small amount of hair I had got is slowly being pulled out!!!!
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I have that driver now loaded in my ArtCut 2002
It seems to be a DMPL driver
In ArtCut, i go to File/Cut plot/Setup
In Setup under Serial Port Settings , i have
Baud rate= 9600
Data Bits=8
Stop Bits = 1
Check=None
Port = Com1
There are check marks in DTR/DSR and RTS/CTSIn Setup, under Command set, i have
Initialize=;H A L0 ECN U V10
UP=U
DOWN=DAre your settings differant or the same?
Frank at cadlink
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Is it a new machine Brian?
I did have some success running the P-Cuts with one of the HPGL drivers before Cadlink made a driver.
I think it was either HPGL relative or HPGL absolute. Can’t remember which but it’s worth giving those 2 a try…
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Frank
The settings are the same for my Artcut 2002 as yours.Brian
Bought the machine 4 weeks ago.Thanx for help.
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hello brian, sorryto hear about your problem, we let cadlink have a machine on loan some time ago and they did do a driver which worked fine with signlab 7, i dont understand why it wont work with signlab 7.1, but i will give cadlink a call in the morning and offer to loan them a machine if that will help resolve the problem,
i cant see it being your pc or port problem because the machine works with artcut, but if the dealer who sold you signlab cant help , i will do all can to help so feel free to give me a call -
hello brian, i got the latest 7.1 friday and just managed to get the machine working, i will give you a call in the morning to talk you through the set up regards
alan flynn -
Many, many thanx to Alan Flynn of Flynn Signs for all your help to try to resolve my problem with the P Cut 630 and Signlab.
Cant particularly thank Cadlink as they were totally unhelpfull and passed the buck to everyone but their company.
After being told by Cadlink that as there weren’t many P Cut machines in the UK they wouldn’t waste their time on sorting out the drivers in the 7.1 version for me.
Alan phoned them and then sorted it.
Thanx once again for your great help and after sales service. -
Brian I think you may find the Frank actually works for Cadlink!!!
Goop!
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Brian.
see my post to Glen Mathers. http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … highlight=You probably have a DMPL based machine.
Just yesterday we finally managed to get 2 people cutting via DMPL.
One in Hong Kong and one in Italy.
The syntax had to be so exactly in a specific order or nothing would work.
You cant use just any DMPL driver.I believe i still have your email address.
I will email you the new driver to try.It has also been frustrating for me as i dont have direct access to a machine. I cant seem to get any programming specs or any contact with the manufactures programmers. It was all trial and error via email/remote network/ 12 hour time differances and intercepting com port data.
I might ask people to read my response to Glen about the inability to tell if a particular machine wants HPGL or DMPL
frank at cadlink
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Brian
I dont think i have your email address so i cant email you the new dmpl based driver.
Also, email address are not allowed here.
Also, we cant use the Private messaging as i am considered a merchant.
I seem to be able to see private messages but i dont have rights to respond.Can you ask your cadlink uk tech support contact to forward me your email address so i can send you the new driver.
frank at cadlink.
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Many thanks for your help Frank.
Previously I did mention about Cadlink, that was pointed at the UK office not yourself. Thanx for ongoing support.
I will contact my local supplier to ask them to pass on my email.
Many thanx.
Brian
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Ive forwarded the latest driver to our guys in the UK office.
PS. Dont be too hard on the UK guys Its mainly our/my fault here in Canada as we write the drivers here.Some of the guys in the UK are invalueble as they are on site, in front of an actual cutter giving me feedback on whats happening with cutters that we dont have here.
Hopefully this DMPL driver will cure your problem.
frank at cadlink
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